Is there one up your back passage? - Page 3

garinda · 03-07-2012, 21:39

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Originally Posted by cashman

Well yeh never been fussy.

Who told you that?

Chuck Berry?

MargaretR · 03-07-2012, 21:47

I admit it was true

garinda · 03-07-2012, 21:48

I pride myself on being a fairly perceptive person.

In my line of work, as a soft assed, loud mouthed git, you have to be. Self-presevation.

If I ain't ever detected any paranormal happenings, whilst of sound mind...they don't exist.

garinda · 03-07-2012, 21:52

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

I admit it is true

Still makes me laugh.

You chucking your beret.

I've learned to control dreams, to some extent, but some are just the brain doing it's version of free form abstract art, and there's no real sense to their form, or structure.

Retlaw · 03-07-2012, 22:11

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Originally Posted by garinda

The brain's a wonderful, complex thing, and we know very little of it's capabilities.

Most people have some very real dreams.

Doesn't mean that what we experience in that state, is real.

Hopefully.

If it does, I think I've committed lewd acts on a tropical beach, that's always just the otherside of Poole harbour.

Dreaming is the brain sorting out your recent memories and experiences, & putting them in the correct file, a bit like a pile of torn up photos that you are trying to sort out, like a jig saw, so every thing you dream you have experienced or seen at some time, but not in that order. Some dreams stay with us for a few days, others have gone within minutes of waking.
I've had some real corkers that have wakened me up sweating bobbers, and their gone in a flash, I put them down to some of the things I experienced in the Fire Brigade, especially the gruesome ones.
Trying to pass some of these off as ghosts or spirits, is for those who believe in owt but the truth.
Retlaw

Margaret Pilkington · 04-07-2012, 06:45

Seeing ghosts is something totally different to dreaming. Ghosts do not always appear at night.
Those who have had the experience of seeing something paranormal will believe in them.......those who haven't will not....or may be sceptical of such happenings.
People who know me will tell you that I am a level headed sort of person....someone not given to flights of fancy...someone not given to seeing things.
I take no drugs, I do not drink alcohol(or only very rarely and not to excess)......but during my long life I have not only seen things, but heard them....and smelled things associated with people who have passed on.

Working with those who were sick and dying provided experiences I may not have had, had I not been in that line of work. Things happened, (things that cannot be explained satisfactorily).....in daylight hours......not always in old buildings.

Perhaps I am in a minority here.......and we know that when you are in a minority it isn't always wise to confess to being a bit different, because this can lead to others(less experienced /informed) hurling ridicule at you.

Personally, I don't really care what others on here think of me. I know what I have seen. You don't have to believe me.

garinda · 04-07-2012, 06:55

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Dreaming is the brain sorting out your recent memories and experiences, & putting them in the correct file, a bit like a pile of torn up photos that you are trying to sort out, like a jig saw, so every thing you dream you have experienced or seen at some time, but not in that order. Some dreams stay with us for a few days, others have gone within minutes of waking.
I've had some real corkers that have wakened me up sweating bobbers, and their gone in a flash, I put them down to some of the things I experienced in the Fire Brigade, especially the gruesome ones.
Trying to pass some of these off as ghosts or spirits, is for those who believe in owt but the truth.
Retlaw

Agreed Sir.

Although I question that dreams are versions of things we've actually experienced, or seen at sometime in our lives.

Common dreams are flying like a bird, and being naked, or part dressed in public.

I can understand why the brain would make us have those dreams. Feeling trapped and wanting to escape a situation/being insecure, but I doubt many have actually soared above the Earth, or been to work without their kecks on.

My flying dreams involve swimming through the air.

It's easy. Just a matter of self-belief, and concentration, and away I go.

garinda · 04-07-2012, 07:03

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Seeing ghosts is something totally different to dreaming. Ghosts do not always appear at night.
Those who have had the experience of seeing something paranormal will believe in them.......those who haven't will not....or may be sceptical of such happenings.
People who know me will tell you that I am a level headed sort of person....someone not given to flights of fancy...someone not given to seeing things.
I take no drugs, I do not drink alcohol(or only very rarely and not to excess)......but during my long life I have not only seen things, but heard them....and smelled things associated with people who have passed on.

Working with those who were sick and dying provided experiences I may not have had, had I not been in that line of work. Things happened, (things that cannot be explained satisfactorily).....in daylight hours......not always in old buildings.

Perhaps I am in a minority here.......and we know that when you are in a minority it isn't always wise to confess to being a bit different, because this can lead to others(less experienced /informed) hurling ridicule at you.

Personally, I don't really care what others on here think of me. I know what I have seen. You don't have to believe me.

I'd never doibt your sincerity, but as you say, on this matter we all believe different things based on our experiences.

I haven't had any that I couldn't rationalise.

If I do, then I'd probably think differently.

It isn't a matter of anyone being right or wrong. Though personally I think the unbelievers are in the minority. The same as with those who don't believe in a life after death.

Margaret Pilkington · 04-07-2012, 07:26

Wasn't is Will Shakespeare who said 'There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy' ?
Scepticism is healthy......to question your belief is healthy, but when you have seen 'things' many times perhaps you have to say this is how it is and accept it.

I do not try to convert people to my way of seeing the situation. I accept that others will have different views and opinions...and I respect them for that.

We are all different. I don't think people should be considered 'nutjobs'(not that anyone has actually said that...but I think it has been alluded to) because of what their life expereince has given them.

garinda · 04-07-2012, 07:47

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Wasn't is Will Shakespeare who said 'There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy' ?
Scepticism is healthy......to question your belief is healthy, but when you have seen 'things' many times perhaps you have to say this is how it is and accept it.

I do not try to convert people to my way of seeing the situation. I accept that others will have different views and opinions...and I respect them for that.

We are all different. I don't think people should be considered 'nutjobs'(not that anyone has actually said that...but I think it has been alluded to) because of what their life expereince has given them.

I'd never allude that people who believe in this stuff, because they've experience it themselves, are nut jobs.

Mainly because some of my nearest and dearest say they've seen paranormal phenomenom, and I'd get a clout.

Margaret Pilkington · 04-07-2012, 07:56

No G....you haven't, but others may have done......or certainly, that is what I have read into some of the responses. (and Yes, I know the internet is a poor medium for getting the nuances across).
It is why I have waited to see how the thread went, before making a post.
I do fall into the category of BOB(batty old bird)...but nutjob?...Never!

jaysay · 04-07-2012, 08:36

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Originally Posted by cashman

Well i had a few Hallucinations way back................But not wi a camera.

Funny that cashy I was thinking exactly the same thing miself

jaysay · 04-07-2012, 08:37

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

I have read a lot about lucid dreaming and have now developed the capacity to control what happens in my dreams.

I recently was escorted to a classy nightclub by Frank Sinatra, and we sang a duet

Are you sure you only take herbal remedies Margaret

jaysay · 04-07-2012, 08:43

Like most people I have dreams, sometimes I can remember my dreams because they are so vivid, yet others, well I wake up know I've been dreaming, but can't remember them, its like having something on the tip of your tongue, but can't bring it out, very strange

Gordon Booth · 04-07-2012, 10:44

I have to come out in support of Margaret Pilkington here.
Like Margaret I think I've posted on here enough for people to accept(I hope) my feet are on the ground- I was trained to look for facts and act on them only.
I don't believe in ghosts or life after death-we get one go and that's it.
However like Margaret I have seen and experienced things happening around another person which I am totally unable to explain. Some curious, some interesting and a few actually quite frightening.
Somewhere there's a sane explanation but I can't find it. So I have to accept that what happened happened. Until it's happened to you you are right to question it-when it has happened you are left wondering.