Is there one up your back passage?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Thank you Gordon...I do appreciate that.
As a two year old I experienced some strange happenings.....this is before the age that a child can reason...at that age you accept what your eyes and your other senses tell you.As my life has progressed other strange occurences have happened too...not just to me, but to people I have looked after, people who mean a lot to me......they haven't been frightening experiences.....in some ways they are enriching.
I do not seek to persuade those who do not believe in the paranormal. I just know what I have seen.
During my career I was taught to observe and to note things carefully...and I believe that skill once taught is not lost.

I feel that for some reason, I must be a receptive person.
I think perhaps we all start out like that, but maybe as we grow older perhaps some of us lose the ability to 'tune in'.
After all, a TV set that is untuned is useless to receive broadcasts.

I don't want to sound too eccentric, because I feel I am grounded and sensible......that is what other people tell me anyway.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Thank you Gordon...I do appreciate that.
As a two year old I experienced some strange happenings.....this is before the age that a child can reason...at that age you accept what your eyes and your other senses tell you.As my life has progressed other strange occurences have happened too...not just to me, but to people I have looked after, people who mean a lot to me......they haven't been frightening experiences.....in some ways they are enriching.
I do not seek to persuade those who do not believe in the paranormal. I just know what I have seen.
During my career I was taught to observe and to note things carefully...and I believe that skill once taught is not lost.

I feel that for some reason, I must be a receptive person.
I think perhaps we all start out like that, but maybe as we grow older perhaps some of us lose the ability to 'tune in'.
After all, a TV set that is untuned is useless to receive broadcasts.

I don't want to sound too eccentric, because I feel I am grounded and sensible......that is what other people tell me anyway.

I don't think for a minute that you are batty or barmy -probably just more empathetic than the average person which is quite a different matter. You pick up the human vibes probably more than most having worked with people who were often vulnerable/frightened/sick/dying etc....some try to hide their feelings and only perceptive people will see through them and know how they really are.

Memories and associations of smells etc with certain people are perfectly normal - I sometimes get that shivery sense of Dejà-vu too. It's always triggered off by one of the senses, for example the smell of Imperial leather soap immediately brings to mind my grandad who always used it. If I close my eyes when i smell it I'm in his bathroom and can see it just as it was.

It can work the other way round too -you are thinking of someone consciously or sub-consciously and you can practically smell, see, taste or hear something you associate with them. This is what I believe happens in those moments you can't explain -I may be wrong of course, but the brain is an incredibly complex and powerful organ and not really that well understood.

[MargaretR]

People usually believe the explanation that does not involve feeling fear.

The 'fear of the unknown' can be overcome if you make the effort to understand why you feel fear. The 'unknown' (unexplainable) could well be no threat, so why fear it?

[Margaret Pilkington]

That may be an explanation for you Dianne......but there are occurences which have happened to me in the presence of others which cannot be explained in such a manner.......would two people be having the same thought simultaneously? Would both people have an auditory hallucination at the same time...and if they did, would they both hear exactly the same thing?
And yes, of course the brain is incredibly complex....and much is unknown about the workings of it.
But just because something cannot be explained away by physics/science.does not mean that it doesn't happen.

I magine if you could go back to the middle ages and take with you a working TV set...you'd be tried as a witch - yet we know that there is a scientific explanation for the signals that are received by a tuned in TV set.

My previous explanation of why some people feel things, see things, or hear things is the nearest I can come to rationalising it...though in truth, it really doesn't need to be rationaised...it just needs to be accepted as part of who I am.

[Gordon Booth]

I'm with you again,Margaret. I understand the deja-vu thing, a smell, a sound, a sight(it's happened to me) but that's not what I(or you I think) am talking about.
It's something happening totally out of the blue which is totally alien to what you are doing or thinking at the time. Something not always first noticed by the person who may be what you called 'receptive' but by someone close by, then experienced by both.
'Receptive'- if there is such a capability I certainly don't have it. Nothing ever happened to me on my own.
There's only one rational explanation for it, Margaret- you and I are both mad!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Gordon - you could very well be right.

[cashman]

No yeh aint both mad,!! Stuff happens to some,which will probably never be explained, So fact it can't be rationalised is no big deal to me, What use would it be? Apart from the fact yeh then know the answer,

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

People usually believe the explanation that does not involve feeling fear.

The 'fear of the unknown' can be overcome if you make the effort to understand why you feel fear. The 'unknown' (unexplainable) could well be no threat, so why fear it?

Pesonally I fear nothing. Certainly not death.

It's one of life's certainties. One day it ends.

To me, fear, and the need to believe we as a species are somehow different from any other living organism, is the reason why every human civilisation comes up with their own verson of an afterlife.

We live.

We die.

Just like a mushroom.

Unless I'm presented with some shocking evidence about a visitation from some spiritual funghi, it's unlikely I'll be changing my thinking, about what I know to be true, anytime soon.

These are just my own thoughts on this matter.

I neither care if others think it's right, or wrong, or want to influence others.

It just makes very real sense to me.

[Margaret Pilkington]

that is all that matters...for it make sense to you.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

that is all that matters...for it make sense to you.

Yup.



Though I didn't think this thread was going to be about the existance, or not, of the paranormal.

I was hoping that someone might have some knowledge of the local incidents listed in the link in 1#.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Yup.



Though I didn't think this thread was going to be about the existence, or not, of the paranormal.

I was hoping that someone might have some knowledge of the local incidents listed in the link in 1#.

Well I don't know if you've heard about the very eerie happenings at the pub which, along with your parents, was my local in the 70s Rindi. The Stop and Rest Fielding Lane, the landlord went on holiday and he got an ex-landlord in as relief, Jack Catlow, one night myself Jack and my mate Stuart, both are no longer with us, stopped behind for a drink, the doors to the snug were both locked, we were sat having a drink at the bar when we all heard the snug door open, thought you'd locked that Jack, I have was the reply, the air then went ice cold, he went to check everything was still locked, I have never vacated a pub as quick in my life, no need to be asked to drink up, it was gone. When the landlord return and we told him he just laughed and said ah you've seen oud Bill have ya seemingly oud Bill was a former landlord and he was just checking everything was locked up

[Eric]

I'm with Marg P too ... I have a ghost in my house; it's no big deal.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I have never vacated a pub as quick in my life, no need to be asked to drink up, it was gone.

I like your sense of priorities, jaysay!
Ghost or no ghost, finish your beer before you run for it.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

I like your sense of priorities, jaysay!
Ghost or no ghost, finish your beer before you run for it.

Too right Gordon to right mate

[lindsay ormerod]

I'm with Margaret P, lived in a house that was haunted, found it strange, not particularly threatening but not right pleasant at times! Seen the odd flying object and heard some strange and unexplainable noises,but that's it so far!