Is this racist? - Page 3

mani · 16-12-2007, 20:19

ema - i'm muslim. and a techno-freak.

WillowTheWhisp · 16-12-2007, 20:45

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I'm a Christian

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I'm no theologian but isn't that a subject open to debate?

Is it? What does being a Christian mean to you? To me it means accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as my Saviour and being grateful for his atonement for my sins. I may try hard not to do things wrong in my life but as hard as I try I still fail so I know I need him.

Sometimes I lose my patience with people and get ratty. That's one of my worst failings. Another one is lack of patience. I'd be impossible to live with if I didn't have Jesus Christ. He is the pivot of my life. I'm not a theologian either. I'm just a human being who knows that without him my life would have no purpose or direction.

When my first husband died I don't think I would have survived if I hadn't had that close relationship with my Saviour to put everything into perspective. I've known people who have studied the Bible and religion backwards, forwards, upside down and inside out and yet have no personal relationship at all with the Saviour. I know people who go to church on Sundays just because it's the done thing and more like a social club to them but they have no personal relationship with the Saviour.

I've often said to other people in PMs on here that I don't like to make posts which sound like I'm preaching because I respect that others don't want to know and don't share my beliefs but I hope people will forgive me for wanting to clarify this point.

Being a Christian isn't about being a perfect person, it's about knowing that you are an imperfect person and need Jesus Christ in your life.

Mimi got a Christmas card from one of the children where she does her work placement and it wished her a Merry Christmas and Happy Eid. Now that I like.

There's absolutely nothing racist in acknowledging someone's religion to be different to your own.

As a matter of fact I have a muslim friend who is Accrington born and bred and the same race as me and another one who is Irish which is practically the same as I have Irish roots too

yerself · 16-12-2007, 20:55

Willow , I was in no way attempting to cast aspersions upon you or to denigrate your beliefs. It's just that I've always been taught or led to believe that Mormons or members of The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints are not Christians.

WillowTheWhisp · 16-12-2007, 21:05

Well if you think about the name of the church it's kind of a give away

Yes we have The Book of Mormon alongside the Bible but the Book of Mormon is subtitled "Another Testament of Jesus Christ". It totally baffles me why other churches say we are not Christian. What the heck do they think we are?

The main difference I can see between us and other Christian churches is that they all believe God and Jesus are the same person and we don't. I'm at a loss to understand how they can believe that when in the Bible Jesus talks about and to his Heavenly Father. He says he is doing the work of his Father and at one point he even asks if there's any other way but then says "not my will but thine". That sounds more like two people than one person to me.

I think perhaps the people who criticise us and claim we are not Christians have not taken too close a look at us. I wouldn't comment on any other religion's beliefs without looking closely at what they are. I have 'investigated' quite a few and found a lot in common but that one main difference always seems to crop up.

emamum · 16-12-2007, 21:10

i am Roman Catholic and i believe that they are seperate people..... Father, Son and Holy spirit...

emamum · 16-12-2007, 21:13

Islam and christianity have alot of similarities, in Re classes alot of the muslim children knew the bible stories.. the main difference is that we see Jesus and the messiah and they see him as another prophet.. plse feel free to correct me if i am wrong...

WillowTheWhisp · 16-12-2007, 21:24

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i am Roman Catholic and i believe that they are seperate people..... Father, Son and Holy spirit...

Now that's really interesting Emamum because the official teaching of the Catholic Church is The Trinity - three in one and one in three. I have a friend who used to be a Catholic and she says she always believed they were seperate too and didn't realise that she wasn't supposed to believe that.

I'm not sure where the doctrine of the Trinity first arose but it isn't Biblical.

Father Henderson (late of St. Joseph's) explained it to me as being like a shamrock leaf with the whole leaf being God and the parts of the leaf being Father, Son and Holy Ghost but all being the same leaf. That's why Mary is referred to as The Mother of God. She isn't the Mother of God though, she's the mother of Christ. God is the father of Christ.

Yes I agree that we have a lot in common with Islam. It would be much better if we could look at the things we have in common rather than the differences wouldn't it? I respect whatever anyone believes if they are sincere in their beliefs.

Sorry Mani, we have gone way off your topic here in typical AccyWeb style.

Lilly · 16-12-2007, 21:32

I don't think that Mani's post was in any way racist. He was only saying that he had found some Nintendos which may interest people who celebrate Christmas and are therefore on the lookout for Christmas presents.

That's not racist.

lancsdave · 16-12-2007, 21:36

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I don't think that Mani's post was in any way racist. He was only saying that he had found some Nintendos which may interest people who celebrate Christmas and are therefore on the lookout for Christmas presents.

That's not racist.

But the Nintendo's on the link were stated as being White. Surely they should not have had the colour of them in the link

( Where's the tongue in cheek smiley ? )

WillowTheWhisp · 16-12-2007, 21:42

OOoer racist Wiis

Lilly · 16-12-2007, 21:45

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OOoer racist Wiis

Racist DS

WillowTheWhisp · 16-12-2007, 21:53

Them an'all.

flashy · 16-12-2007, 23:04

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Now that's really interesting Emamum because the official teaching of the Catholic Church is The Trinity - three in one and one in three. I have a friend who used to be a Catholic and she says she always believed they were seperate too and didn't realise that she wasn't supposed to believe that.

I'm not sure where the doctrine of the Trinity first arose but it isn't Biblical.

Father Henderson (late of St. Joseph's) explained it to me as being like a shamrock leaf with the whole leaf being God and the parts of the leaf being Father, Son and Holy Ghost but all being the same leaf. That's why Mary is referred to as The Mother of God. She isn't the Mother of God though, she's the mother of Christ. God is the father of Christ.

Yes I agree that we have a lot in common with Islam. It would be much better if we could look at the things we have in common rather than the differences wouldn't it? I respect whatever anyone believes if they are sincere in their beliefs.

Sorry Mani, we have gone way off your topic here in typical AccyWeb style.

oh willow i do love you ya know, you crack me up, i love the way you see different sides to everything and sit on the fence, its wonderful

WillowTheWhisp · 16-12-2007, 23:06

Fence? What fence? I thought I was pretty specific about what I believe.

flashy · 16-12-2007, 23:09

lol i'm talking in general, not just on this thread