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Old 16-12-2007, 23:11   #46
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Re: Is this racist?

Haven't you seen me arguing with Jambutty?

















Now look what you've done. I'm off on a thread wander again. You naughty girl!
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Old 16-12-2007, 23:14   #47
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Re: Is this racist?

hahahahahaha SOWWY
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Old 16-12-2007, 23:29   #48
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Re: Is this racist?

ema - totally right

in islam there's slight differences to the whole jesus story but yeah we believe he's a prophet not the son of god

but the whole resurrection from the cross we dont believe in.
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Old 16-12-2007, 23:42   #49
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ema - totally right

in islam there's slight differences to the whole jesus story but yeah we believe he's a prophet not the son of god

but the whole resurrection from the cross we dont believe in.
I don't think that it is a matter of belief, rather it is faith. There is a vast difference between the two. One can have faith, for example, in the exisistence of a great benevolent donut which controls our lives and be counted as more or less sane, though a little eccentric. But to say you believe in it, in the strictest sense, is more than a little crazy. In English, no two words or ways of expression can be considered identical. For example, to say "I am happy" is not the same as "I am not unhappy."

But after spending two hours shovelling snow out of my driveway, I may just be getting a little too philosophical Three foot snow drifts will do that to you.
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Old 16-12-2007, 23:56   #50
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we dont have any snow

let alone snow 3 ft deep

i'd b happy with snow 3 inches deep

england can come to a standstill again!
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Old 17-12-2007, 00:09   #51
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Think the point Blackburn Raver was trying to make was quite a valid one. Mani said "i do for u ppl celebrating ur crimbo", if we had said "You people celebrating your Eid" would we not have been jumped on from a great height?? Not saying Mani was being anything but helpful but "boot and other foot" comes to mind!!
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Old 17-12-2007, 01:13   #52
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Think the point Blackburn Raver was trying to make was quite a valid one. Mani said "i do for u ppl celebrating ur crimbo", if we had said "You people celebrating your Eid" would we not have been jumped on from a great height?? Not saying Mani was being anything but helpful but "boot and other foot" comes to mind!!
my point EXACTLY....thanks
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Old 17-12-2007, 02:04   #53
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why on earth would anyone be offended by that?!

the ppl who accuse this of being anti-PC are doin just that

this is just like the people who say dont put up christmas lights as it'll offend the non-christians but fail to ask a single non-christian if the lights offend them!

thats nothing but plain assumption!

your just assuming if you would say that you would offend someone

obviously u refer a collective of people regardless of race religion etc as people. its not as if u've referred us to as ragheads, p***s etc

so if for example flights to saudi had ran dry and someone posted on here oh btw there's 4 seats available on the BA flight from bham airport this is for you people celebrating your eid... i'd thanks mate its what i was after or ooooooh i know someone who cud do with that or at least excellant i dont need a seat but hey they looked. why would i be offended?
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Old 17-12-2007, 08:03   #54
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Thanks Mani. It's about time people stopped speaking on behalf of others and telling us what offends other people.

There seems to be a bit of an assumption that acknowledging differences makes one racist. (Not that religion has anything to do with race anyway.) I just don't get it. If I discovered a really good shampoo or conditioner with something in it like chamomile to keep light hair bright and shiny I might well post "for all you blonds out there" - would that make me blondist?

I don't know about anybody else but all this tiptoeing around not offending people comes over as rather offensive in itself because it is getting racial distinctions out of proportion instead of regarding people as people and individuals as individuals.
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Old 17-12-2007, 08:21   #55
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But aren't we trying to tell Blackburn Raver that he is wrong in what he finds offensive? The comment he made to Mani was a karma one which by the rules of the forum he is allowed to do. Surely he is entitled to free speech as much as anybody else!!
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Old 17-12-2007, 08:28   #56
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No, I'm not telling Blackburn Raver he was wrong to have his opinion, which is just what it was - his opinion. Mani asked if it was racist and I'm saying that in my opinion, it isn't.

But ........... I do think it's a shame that people see racism and offence where none is intended because that leads to other problems. This is why we have so much conflict in the world, like Gillian Gibbons being accused of being part of a Western plot to undermine Islam.
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Old 17-12-2007, 18:19   #57
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Still don't understand why this is racist. Firstly, it's concerned with religion, not race and, secondly, he didn't say anything offensive anyway. If he'd said "you infidels celebrating your Christmas" I could've understood it, but calling people "people" seems pretty non-controversial to me!
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Old 17-12-2007, 19:16   #58
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Still don't understand why this is racist. Firstly, it's concerned with religion, not race and, secondly, he didn't say anything offensive anyway. If he'd said "you infidels celebrating your Christmas" I could've understood it, but calling people "people" seems pretty non-controversial to me!
Maybe racism is in the eyes of the beholder
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Old 17-12-2007, 20:05   #59
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Same topic, different subject;

Inter Milan football strip 'offends Muslims' - Telegraph
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Old 17-12-2007, 20:08   #60
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Hmmmmmmmmm
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