Is this racist? - Page 5

WillowTheWhisp · 17-12-2007, 20:09

Yes that's silly as well because that football strip is just the flag of the city.

cashman · 17-12-2007, 20:09

its responses to innocuous comments that can make racism i think.

mani · 17-12-2007, 20:52

maybe i shud've used the whole infidels thing

man why didnt i think of that!!

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It made me think immediately of the bloody days of the past. While I was watching the game I felt profound grief in my soul

of course the turkish lawyer was present as the knights templar rode past and lay slain all in their path. it is almost as bad as watching Fenerbahçe or burnley....

MargaretR · 17-12-2007, 21:00

When Scotland and N Ireland get independance what will they think then! (our flag)
Facts about England

WillowTheWhisp · 17-12-2007, 22:59

What the heck is Harry Potter doing featuring so prominently on that link? Sheesh! Priorities in a twist or what?

Maybe we'll have to come up with an alternative flag in order to appear less infidelish

BLACKBURN RAVER · 18-12-2007, 14:59

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Completely baffled as to why you lost karma Mani. Don't let the racist who did it get you down.

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Thanks Mani. It's about time people stopped speaking on behalf of others and telling us what offends other people.

There seems to be a bit of an assumption that acknowledging differences makes one racist.

ASSUMPTIONS eh !!!

so why do you assume i am a racist just because i left negative karma

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you know some people really pi$$ me off with their im better than you attitude !!!!

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my FINAL say on this matter ta ta

emamum · 18-12-2007, 15:03

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When Scotland and N Ireland get independance what will they think then! (our flag)
Facts about England

Countrys motto-Dieu et mon droit (God and my right)

Why is our motto in french?

WillowTheWhisp · 18-12-2007, 15:56

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER

ASSUMPTIONS eh !!!

so why do you assume i am a racist just because i left negative karma

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you know some people really pi$$ me off with their im better than you attitude !!!!

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my FINAL say on this matter ta ta

I'm not better than anyone else and I certainly don't assume that I am. In fact I know that I fall far short of being the sort of person I'd like to be and I also know there are people on here far cleverer than me and who are far better at explaining things than I am.

However, you asked a question and so I shall try to answer it, as best I can.

Why did I assume that the person who left Mani negative karma was racist? Well, it was because they (which turned out to be you) assumed a racist slur in Mani's post where non was intended, saw an innocent post as a racist insult, saw a helpful AccyWebber as an anti-Christian aggressor. That seemed pretty racist to me in much the same way as people who accuse others of being racist when they say "A white teenager." or "An Asian teenager". There is nothing racist at all in describing the ethnic origins of someone. Racism comes into it when one race is deemed to be inferior or superior to another. The distinction is made in the mind of the beholder, therefore if a person sees 'racism' where none was intended and where none is apparent to the majority then the distinction of inferiority or superiority (ie racism) is in the eyes of the beholder, who is therefore the only actual racist in the equation.

I know I haven't explained that as clearly as I would have liked to do but it's difficult. I'm sure somebody else could make a better job of it than me.

I don't know if you can remember but some time ago there was a thread on here about racism and I made a post along the lines of the fact that I have friends of different races and have to stop and actively think about it before I could think what races my friends are because to me first and foremost they are all just human beings. Somebody pounced on that and accused me of being racist and of having to remind myself that black people are human!

Mani was helping us Christmas celebrating type people by finding links to some of the presents that people found hard to track down. He referred to 'you people and your Crimbo' in much the same way as I could refer to 'you Stanley supporters and your football' - no racism in the latter but racism was assumed in the former because Mani is Asian and Muslim. If he had been white and Pagan would the post have been racist? It is also worth remembering that Christianity is a religion, not a race and that Christians come from all racial backgrounds, including Asian - and the same goes for Islam. There are white Anglo-Saxon Muslims too.

Eric · 18-12-2007, 17:51

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Originally Posted by emamum23

Countrys motto-Dieu et mon droit (God and my right)

Why is our motto in french?

Think about it. 1066 and all that. Henry V was (I think) the first English king to do most of his royal business (no bathroom or throne jokes please) in English ... English kings claimed the throne of France up until the 19 th century. As an aside, Frederick the Great introduced a new medal for bravery for Prussian soldiers ... he called it the Pour le Merite.

WillowTheWhisp · 18-12-2007, 18:46

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As an aside, Frederick the Great introduced a new medal for bravery for Prussian soldiers ... he called it the Pour le Merite.

Otherwise known as the Blue Max.

cashman · 18-12-2007, 20:53

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Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER

ASSUMPTIONS eh !!!

so why do you assume i am a racist just because i left negative karma

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you know some people really pi$$ me off with their im better than you attitude !!!!

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my FINAL say on this matter ta ta

well it never crossed my mind that you were being racist/or not, just thought you were being dumb.

mani · 19-12-2007, 00:34

this thing with the country's motto

how many ppl actually knew that we even had one... i wud've thought it was god save the queen or maybe for queen (king) and country

cashman · 19-12-2007, 00:35

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this thing with the country's motto

how many ppl actually knew that we even had one... i wud've thought it was god save the queen or maybe for queen (king) and country

well heres one that didn't have a clue.

Ber999T · 19-12-2007, 06:07

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Same topic, different subject;

Inter Milan football strip 'offends Muslims' - Telegraph

So who's being the racist in this story???????

As a saying goes "People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

I cant see anything wrong with the thread start as to some of the comments off other members GROW UP!!!!!

WillowTheWhisp · 19-12-2007, 09:28

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this thing with the country's motto

how many ppl actually knew that we even had one... i wud've thought it was god save the queen or maybe for queen (king) and country

I've seen it in courtrooms but must admit that it never actually dawned on me that it was the country's motto.

I know Scotland has a Latin one. - "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" which roughly translates to "If you hit me I'll thump ye back!"