Isn't it really frustrating when.........

[lettie]

The whole point of pre-op clinics is to prepare you for your operation before you come to hospital. Therefore all of the blood tests, baseline observations and information giving should be done in this clinic. This means that you can come on the day of your op and not have to have anything done except getting into a theatre gown. Pre-op clinics negate the need to come into hospital the day before, which was always the case in the past.

It may be that the member of staff who dealt with you was new to that particular department (happens quite a bit). Or maybe it was a doctor who told you to come in the day before (they're good, but have no idea of the day to day running of the wards).

[WillowTheWhisp]

Lettie, I did query with the doctor at the pre-op the fact that I was being asked to go in the day before. My reason for querying was that I'm aware of a shortage of hospital beds as that is always in the news and also have experience of family members having ops and going in on the actual day.

She insisted that it was because my case isn't simply straightforward 'pop your gown on and off down to theatre' and that I needed to be in there the day before for them to discuss my case with the anaesthetist and to deal with anything else which might need to be done or any possible alternatives procedures as a consequence on the day prior to the op.

Then today someone rang me and said forget all that, I don't need to be there until noon tomorrow. Then yet another person phoned to say I do need to be there as they spoke to the anaesthetist today (despite the person earlier saying that he wouldn't be around today) and that he had wanted to discuss options with me but as I wasn't there (because I'd been told not to go in today after all) I now need to be there first thing tomorrow morning.

This is for a biopsy following one which I had a couple of weeks ago from which they couldn't get enough tissue by the method they used then - I've had to wait longer than normal between the two already because they couldn't do the general anaesthetic for tomorrows op until after I'd had the angiogram last week to prove my heart would be up to it. I can't do the normal stress test due to asthma.

If that angiogram had come back with problems I'm not sure what they would have done, but ordinarily if there hadn't been the angiogram hold-up the specialist who saw me last time said they are under obligation to do this biopsy asap as speed is of the essence.

But as I said in response to Tealeaf's earlier post, with a bit of luck I will have cancer and they won't have been able to catch it early enough so I'll be off the NHS waiting list and you can all move up a notch. Not that Tealeaf himself is likely to need to see the same specialist as me in this particular case.

[lettie]

Aaaah.... It is now a little clearer. If you have medical problems such as Asthma or Cardiac problems, you need to be assessed by an anaesthetist prior to anaesthetic. This used to routinely occur the night before an op but depending on the schedule of the anaesthetist, may have been the same morning. We found that if we brought patients in the night before, they were less likely to get missed. Anaesthetists can be called away for emergency operations etc, so aren't always available the night before. Sometimes they do their assessments first thing in the morning before the theatre list starts. This makes more sense as there are more of them about during the day (there is usually only one on call in the evening and at night for general surgery, one for ICU and one for gynae/maternity). There are loads during the day due to scheduled operations, so it is easier for them to do their assessments in the morning.

It may be that the staff were unclear about when your anaesthetist would be available. It is difficult to bleep and ask them as they cannot leave an anaesthetised patient to answer the phone. During the day, some anaesthetists are scheduled to do the planned operations and some are on call for emergencies, so, although they help at the planned ops, they keep themselves relatively free to answer their emergency calls. If your anaesthetist was scheduled to be with planned ops, the clinic staff wouldn't have been able to contact him/her. It's no good contacting the emergency person with a query, each anaesthetist works differently so the emergency person may not have been able to answer the question.
the clinic staff were probably thinking that they'd be on the safe side and bring you in the night before.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Good. You're getting this treatment for nowt. As the old saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.

What a nasty little comment.

Does the same go for education?

[WillowTheWhisp]

The irony is that he would have been there this afternoon to see me if I'd been there as I was originally told to be.

I still maintain that it's frustrating not to know whether you're coming or going, especially at a worrying time. It seems that some people get sympathy for things like this and some people just get slagged off.

Perhaps I'd be best just keeping to the "Anything Goes" threads and not having any personal opinions on anything in future. It seems that all I ever do is cause trouble these days.

[garinda]

I'd logged off to make my supper but had to come back because I still have steam coming out of my ears, rather than off my pans.

I above all people here use humour which sometimes can go too far, in some people's eyes. However what Tealeaf said to Willow is down right callous.

I don't know exactly what Willow is having done tomorrow (hopefully), but because cancer was mentioned ,I presume it's not an ingrowing toenail. As a member we know you to be a wife and mother, and can only try to understand how frightened they all must be for you, as well the apprehension you must have yourself.

Perhaps the difference is Tealeaf has never really loved anyone, and by that same token ever been loved himself. I hope he never has to go to the funeral of someone he loved, as I have, when my Dad died aged fifty one of cancer.

Rant over.

Take no notice Willow, it is an interesting topic for a thread.

I'm sure all your friends at Accy Web send you love and best wishes for tomorrow, and that you make a speedy and full recovery.

G x

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

NI contributions went the same as Income Tax, Death duties, VAT, Exise, betting tax, stamp duty....all into the same government pot. No UK government has ever practised hypothesization, so your NI funded lots of things from teachers to trident missiles, just as booze and fag tax went towards the NHS. No government has committed a set proportion of NI to funding the NHS.

I'll let you have another go.

Much obliged for allowing me to have another go your dorkship. Try to imagine that you are a French person and I am offering you a gesture.

So are you now going to admit that you were wrong to state that WillowTheWhisp was getting treatment from the NHS for nowt?

[Less]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

The irony is that he would have been there this afternoon to see me if I'd been there as I was originally told to be.

I still maintain that it's frustrating not to know whether you're coming or going, especially at a worrying time. It seems that some people get sympathy for things like this and some people just get slagged off.

Perhaps I'd be best just keeping to the "Anything Goes" threads and not having any personal opinions on anything in future. It seems that all I ever do is cause trouble these days.

Oiy, since when would anything T' said get you down? You should know what he's like by now, plus, when have you ever needed sympathy? You are just suffering a little from the old butterflys, otherwise you wouldn't fuss so.
Of course it's frustrating, but thats probably because you want everything to be over and then you can get on with being confusing as normal.

Not to worry though as soon as you get out I and many others will be waiting here to get your version of what went on, then we'll wait for busman to come on and translate it for us.

I hope all goes well and the whole thing isn't too uncomfortable, now stop fussing and go pack your sponge bag again, I bet you forgot to put your toothpaste in!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Less

Oiy, since when would anything T' said get you down? You should know what he's like by now, plus, when have you ever needed sympathy? You are just suffering a little from the old butterflys, otherwise you wouldn't fuss so.
Of course it's frustrating, but thats probably because you want everything to be over and then you can get on with being confusing as normal.

Not to worry though as soon as you get out I and many others will be waiting here to get your version of what went on, then we'll wait for busman to come on and translate it for us.

I hope all goes well and the whole thing isn't too uncomfortable, now stop fussing and go pack your sponge bag again, I bet you forgot to put your toothpaste in!

Humour, so called, is fine Less. Funny how he seems to direct it at people who are feeling a bit vunerable or weak

He hasn't had a go at me for ages, and I'm big, bad, ugily and wittly cruel enough to give him back what he's proffered ten fold.

Come on you balding windbag, bring it on.

Or perhaps is he still earning his thirty pieces of silver supplying equipment to the NHS, and has gone off to do a bit of pen-pushing?

[Less]

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Originally Posted by Less View Post
Oiy, since when would anything T' said get you down? You should know what he's like by now, plus, when have you ever needed sympathy? You are just suffering a little from the old butterflys, otherwise you wouldn't fuss so.
Of course it's frustrating, but thats probably because you want everything to be over and then you can get on with being confusing as normal.

Not to worry though as soon as you get out I and many others will be waiting here to get your version of what went on, then we'll wait for busman to come on and translate it for us.

I hope all goes well and the whole thing isn't too uncomfortable, now stop fussing and go pack your sponge bag again, I bet you forgot to put your toothpaste in!

Humour, so called, is fine Less. Funny how he seems to direct it at people who are feeling a bit vunerable or weak

If you want to argue with T' that is fine, I was trying to be comforting to Willow, so please don't include me in your rant, thank you!

[jambutty]

Good luck WillowTheWhisp.

I hope that everything goes well for you and you come back revitalised and ready to take on the world.

[garinda]

I'm most terriblely sorry Less if you felt I included you, or any other appologists for bad taste, in my rant.

[katex]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

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But as I said in response to Tealeaf's earlier post, with a bit of luck I will have cancer and they won't have been able to catch it early enough so I'll be off the NHS waiting list and you can all move up a notch. [/COLOR]

Pleease don't say that Willow. too upsetting to think about .. you'll be fine I hope .. best of luck, will think about you tomorrow xxx

Hey, Garinda now's yer chance to get in some extra posts to catch up with her .

[garinda]

Originally Posted by katex

Hey, Garinda now's yer chance to get in some extra posts to catch up with her .

No, I wouldn't take advantage.

I'll wait until she goes off to Carnforth next summer to their caravan, and hope she still hasn't got internet access up there.

[MUMMIBOO]

Hiya Willow I wish you and your family all the best at this time, I dont know why you need a hospital visit but its never a pleasant time (i get the hebbie jebbies just visiting lol) but i know how my dad felt as you do when this happened to him (on more than one occasion!) but it cant be helped and what is done is done and it will all be over soon enough.

Take care Willow, thinking of you. x