It makes me cringe does it you

[accyman]

id rather teach my son to use a bar of soap than chop the end of his cock off thanx

mind you i am getting fed up of him playing out and coming back with dirty hands.If only we had chopped his hands off at birth

ahhh so thats why abu hamzad has 2 hooks its a hygene thing

[Neil]

Originally Posted by alan7554

there is more risk of infection and catching aids from an uncircumcised penis than from a circumcised penis,and you are right but the risk is there if you dont wash properly,having a proper bell end as its called does a lot to stop infection but yes it does help if you wash it regularly

The risk of catching aids is a stupid comment

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Neil

I think you need to find some friends who are not scanks then because washing prevents the things you mentioned

It's usually the simple things isn't it ...

[Less]

Originally Posted by alan7554

i was circumcised very young,dont remember anything about it,but i think it is more hygenic and healthy for us males,i am not jewish but i am happy and glad it was done,no nasty mucus or bad smells coming from the underlying skin round the head of the penis,most of my friends are not circumcised and wish that they had had it done,over here its very rarely done on thai men and it heightens the sensual feelings during intercourse and oral sex.

I know they say it pays to advertise, but somehow I get the feeling it would have to be someone young and naive, to swallow anything like that from you.

Too much information!

[Sunflower49]

Originally Posted by alan7554

i was circumcised very young,dont remember anything about it,but i think it is more hygienic and healthy for us males,i am not jewish but i am happy and glad it was done,no nasty mucus or bad smells coming from the underlying skin round the head of the penis,most of my friends are not circumcised and wish that they had had it done,over here its very rarely done on thai men and it heightens the sensual feelings during intercourse and oral sex.

It's nonsensical to do it for hygiene reasons-similar to me saying 'If I cut my labia off, it will be easier to keep my vulva clean'.

The sensitivity thing isn't true either, and as you have nothing to compare it to,having being circumcised young, you cannot know how it affects sensitivity. If anything,it's the opposite-friction causes sensation and there is less when the foreskin isn't there, plus if the head and glands of the penis are constantly exposed to clothing and touch they become less sensitive than if they are not exposed until sexual contact.

Originally Posted by accyman

agree %100

if someone believes in god then god made them in his own image so surely people would come ready made and no require bits removing so the religous aspect is a complete crock of sh....

the practice should be banned if it isnt already unless medicaly required and anyone caught doing it be charged with child abuse along with endangering life.

its not about religous tolerance its commons sense and just because someones religion is backwards it should not mean harm to a child should be over looked

I agree. The fact that these people didn't know, that this procedure was available on the NHS angers me as well, as parents they should have the initiative. I won't get started on religion, though

Originally Posted by alan7554

there is more risk of infection and catching aids from an uncircumcised penis than from a circumcised penis,and you are right but the risk is there if you dont wash properly,having a proper bell end as its called does a lot to stop infection but yes it does help if you wash it regularly

Originally Posted by Neil

The risk of catching aids is a stupid comment

It's debatable, evidence suggests that having a foreskin is risky, but the major studies to establish facts were done in mostly third world countries-no barrier methods used for protection. Using protection works largely to prevent the spread of HIV anyway. Then again religious nuts are against that as well, aren't they.
Having 'voiced' my opinions, it's daft-Mr Sugarmouse is circumcised-I asked him why when we first , er.... and he said 'It's the done thing in Canada'!

[alan7554]

neil i find your remark about catching aids as a stupid comment very offensive ,and as a moderator you should know better,fact if you are circumcised it reduces the risk of becoming hiv+ check out the facts on any hivor aid site,and i should know as my late wife died from being hiv+which became aids after 4 years,i was giving a general piece of advice on a topic i felt was good to post about.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by alan7554

neil i find your remark about catching aids as a stupid comment very offensive ,and as a moderator you should know better,fact if you are circumcised it reduces the risk of becoming hiv+ check out the facts on any hivor aid site,and i should know as my late wife died from being hiv+which became aids after 4 years,i was giving a general piece of advice on a topic i felt was good to post about.

I was under the impression that catching aids from having sex was to do with who you are with and the precautions you take. Maybe I am wrong and circumcised men are immune. If they are not immune then yes I do think your remark was stupid.

I don't see why me being a mod has anything to do with me thinking your remark was stupid.

[Sunflower49]

Having an intact foreskin DOES increase the risk of contracting the HIV virus, if you engage in unprotected sex. Being circumsised also reduces the risk of a man passing the virus to a (male or female) sexual partner. However does not make a man *immune* to the virus and he *can* still infect a partner.
I could be wrong but I think a lot of it is to do with the fact that the foreskin is quite a delicate piece of skin , which can tear, be damaged, bleed.
I do not think this is a good reason to encourage or campaign for more men to be circumsised, although fair enough if a personal decision based on precaution-it is not a proven fact, and in any case is not guaranteed.

Thatt that the HIV virus CANNOT penetrate latex, however-whether the penis has a foreskin or does not-THAT is fact.

My sympathies for your loss , Alan.

[alan7554]

thank you sugarmouse 0707,this is the point i was trying to make and i dont like the snide coments being posted on here ie Less. i am happy to be circumsized and it is everybodies own personal belief or decision in that matter unless you are to young to have a say.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Alan, if you were circumcised as a baby/child then you have known nothing else so you have no option but to be satisfied, because you know nothing different....and if you were circumcised as a baby/child then you were not given a choice in the subject...it was your parents choice...over which you had no influence.

Having an intact foreskin can act as a reservoir for all kinds of nasties...not just the HIV virus, but other STDs too.
Although the removal of this bit of skin doesn't mean that you will not contract any of those things...if you indulge in unprotected sex, then you are leaving yourself open to all of these things.....and quite frankly, that is what is stupid.

[Less]

Originally Posted by alan7554

thank you sugarmouse 0707,this is the point i was trying to make and i dont like the snide coments being posted on here ie Less.

Well, life is tough just because you don't like a thing doesn't mean it won't happen, if you think a comment of mine is offensive, report it to the mods, however, does snide come under offensive or accurate?

[emamum]

the penis is a self cleaning organ, the same as the vagina, there is no need to cut parts of it off for hygiene, or any other reason imo,you only need to clean the outside, like a finger, the same as women do, would you expect a woman to clean all up inside herself?

[Margaret Pilkington]

And I suppose that is why it transmits STDs/HIV/Chlamydia.
If it truly was self cleaning then there would be no STD's.

[Sunflower49]

Originally Posted by accyman

id rather teach my son to use a bar of soap than chop the end of his cock off thanx

This is the best answer ever lol

@Emamum that's basically what I said! (I may have worded it slightly vulgar in comparison)!

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707

It's nonsensical to do it for hygiene reasons-similar to me saying 'If I cut my labia off, it will be easier to keep my vulva clean'.

Originally Posted by alan7554

thank you sugarmouse 0707,this is the point i was trying to make and i dont like the snide coments being posted on here ie Less. i am happy to be circumsized and it is everybodies own personal belief or decision in that matter unless you are to young to have a say.

I am quite against circumsicising babies and children for a couple of reasons, one being the fact that the reasons are usually religious or traditional, and a pet hate of mine is people doing things for these reasons-people should use their brains and make informed decisions.
Another reason is because I just cannot get my head around any Mother thinking her son's genitals should be hacked at , for ANY reason at all. I'm not a parent but I don't think I need to be one to justify that ideal. Those two reasons overlap ,any way.
Another being-the infant has not the voice nor reasoning ability, to say whether he approves of what is being done to his body. And I think that's abusive.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

And I suppose that is why it transmits STDs/HIV/Chlamydia.
If it truly was self cleaning then there would be no STD's.

This thread has left me with a nasty taste.....
If self-cleaning I suppose I won't bother having a wash for the next few weeks, save on the water bill

[Less]

Originally Posted by sugarmouse0707

If self-cleaning I suppose I won't bother having a wash for the next few weeks, save on the water bill

If none of us wash for the next couple of weeks we'll all be able to hum Christmas Carols from some extra-ordinary places on December the 24th.