Its not the cabbies - its the parents - check them!! - Page 3

***Mr D*** · 11-09-2009, 17:01

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

It's just another way to tax, and to instill the thought 'trust no-one'.
The more fear that can be implanted in a society, the more restriction of freedom that society will accept

Could not of put it any better myself.

Eric · 11-09-2009, 18:48

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

This mass screening of innocent persons would not be neccessary if the names and addresses of persons on the sex offenders register was allowed to be made public.

It's not public

And I suppose the coppers don't make public the names of sex offenders who have served their time and been released into your community

Seems a little silly. If any sex offender is released into Kingston, the KPD publish his photo and his record. What's the point if the public are not informed.

MargaretR · 11-09-2009, 19:31

Here is more info
Q&A: the sex offenders register | Society | Guardian Unlimited
extract-
"Who gets told about the movements of sex offenders?
Head teachers, doctors, youth leaders, sports club managers and others, including landlords, are notified of the existence of a local sex offender on a confidential basis, but a system of general disclosure is unlikely to happen in Britain."

BERNADETTE · 11-09-2009, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Eric

It's not public

And I suppose the coppers don't make public the names of sex offenders who have served their time and been released into your community

Seems a little silly. If any sex offender is released into Kingston, the KPD publish his photo and his record. What's the point if the public are not informed.

No Eric it isn't public as I posted earlier in the thread my daughter who has three children had a convicted sex offender living next door to her with no idea about it. Apparently my grandchildren have less rights to protection than a convicted paedophille

cherokee · 11-09-2009, 23:56

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

It's just another way to tax, and to instill the thought 'trust no-one'.
The more fear that can be implanted in a society, the more restriction of freedom that society will accept

Agree completely.

cashman · 12-09-2009, 00:16

at the risk of repeating myself, why is society now more fearfull than it ever was, cos theres no proper deterant, no respect fer justice cos its virtually non- existant. as was said these pervs have more rights than the kids.

Guinness · 12-09-2009, 07:59

Talk about using a hammer to break an egg.

This legislation actually takes the premise of guilty until proved innocent. People should also bear in mind that the CRB check is flawed in the fact that your name stays on this register if you have had an allegation of abuse against you and been proved innocent.

a) the majority of child abuse is done within the family, this legislation will therefore not protect the majority of children

b) this legislation is a direct result of the inquiry into the Huntley case and although it would have stopped him getting the job of caretaker it would not have stopped the tragedy since he got access to the children through his girlfriend not through his job

When my kids were growing up, they had their friends round to stay overnight on a regular basis and vice versa, it was mine (or the wifes) responsibility to check out the suitability, informal chat with the parents, asking friends if they knew the parents etc... I didn't need this nonsense to protect my kids, in other words I protected them myself by using my head. I didn't leave them in a hotel room while I went drinking with my friends either!

The government is encouraging car sharing to ease traffic flow at peak school run times, then makes it more difficult by bringing in nonsense like this.

As an aside, does this legislation cover priests?

LYNX1 · 12-09-2009, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Guinness

Talk about using a hammer to break an egg.

As an aside, does this legislation cover priests?

Good point Guinness.........They have as many bad apples as any other organisation..

jaysay · 12-09-2009, 08:24

And there was me thinking George Orwell's 1984 was make believe, Winston is still alive a kicking

Eric · 13-09-2009, 15:49

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

No Eric it isn't public as I posted earlier in the thread my daughter who has three children had a convicted sex offender living next door to her with no idea about it. Apparently my grandchildren have less rights to protection than a convicted paedophille

Absolutely nuts .... in legal cases where the rights of the individual clash with the good of the general population our Supreme Court has consistently ruled that the good of the majority can outweigh the rights of the individual citizen.... just seems to make sense ... ah well, different strokes ....

steeljack · 13-09-2009, 19:03

maybe its a good thing that names and addresses are not open to public view in the UK , was there not a case a year or so ago of a "group of concerned parents and well meaning neighbours" attacking a paediatrician thinking he/she was a paedophile.

Eric · 14-09-2009, 05:52

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Originally Posted by steeljack

maybe its a good thing that names and addresses are not open to public view in the UK , was there not a case a year or so ago of a "group of concerned parents and well meaning neighbours" attacking a paediatrician thinking he/she was a paedophile.

Reminds me of a wonderfully funny scene from "Reuben, Reuben."

accyman · 14-09-2009, 16:00

lol im just wondering how many of these people opposing the crb checking will be screming more shoudl have been done to protect a particualar child when the next case hits the headlines.

if pedophiles were executed then figures would drop as they often get released and re offend

crb checks may not be perfect but at least its a start

BERNADETTE · 14-09-2009, 16:07

I think you are missing the point Accyman, people are not against CRB checks in principle but see it for what it is a money making racket. Ian Huntley was CRB checked did that save Holly and Jessica? Like everything else the perverts will find a way to get round it.

accyman · 14-09-2009, 17:36

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

I think you are missing the point Accyman, people are not against CRB checks in principle but see it for what it is a money making racket. Ian Huntley was CRB checked did that save Holly and Jessica? Like everything else the perverts will find a way to get round it.

its quite a minority that fiddle with kids and an even smaller mionority that would go out and basically hand deliver kids to a pedophile and i can quite confidently assume that most women if asked to go out and find a child for their partner to fiddle with would say no and ring the police

anyone who wants to be in a place of trust with children should expect high scrutiny and if they dont like it then they should rethink their carreer options or hobbies if running a football team or somthing