Its Rubbish

[garinda]

Britcliffe keeps moaning on about it being the goverrnment's fault that we are being encouraged to recycle, but I don't think 'hug a hoody Dave I'm so green I have a windmill on my Notting Hill home Cameron', is going to change it very much if the Conservatives got in, well from what I gather from his not very clear non policies.

Incidentally I'm just back from doing a weekly shop, and there is no wasteful packaging, but I went to Accy Market, rather than to a supermarket.

[chav1]

on teh radio the other week they discussed recycling and covered house hold recycling and both experts agreed that the process of recycling, collecting it in waggons,fuel usage , emiisions etc and running the plants that actualy recycle the waste caused just as much dammage to teh enviroment as what it does not recycling in teh first place

they claimed that over half the things we recycle shouldnt be and recycleing shoudl be kept to things that are easily recyled and not the things that have to go through a complicated process to recycle like some plastic cartons etc

[Billcat]

Originally Posted by garinda

Incidentally I'm just back from doing a weekly shop, and there is no wasteful packaging, but I went to Accy Market, rather than to a supermarket.

Some very tasty stuff to be had at Accy market!

And the food there is not bad, either!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Billcat

Some very tasty stuff to be had at Accy market!

And the food there is not bad, either!

Obviously you did not visit on flea market day

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by chav1

on teh radio the other week they discussed recycling and covered house hold recycling and both experts agreed that the process of recycling, collecting it in waggons,fuel usage , emiisions etc and running the plants that actualy recycle the waste caused just as much dammage to teh enviroment as what it does not recycling in teh first place

It's not just the cost or the environmental pollution side of things though - it's having enough holes left to bung the stuff in.

[chav1]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

It's not just the cost or the environmental pollution side of things though - it's having enough holes left to bung the stuff in.

two thirds of the planet is water lets sink some of it lol

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

I was warned about the chips in the bins when they first appeared, they are used to weigh the amount or waste you do not recycle. In some Greater London Boroughs, charges have already been introduced for every kilo over the allowed amount of useless waste.

I personally cannot see how a chip in a bin could weigh how much is in it?

And being charged for waste is a load of rubbish. ,a family of 5 is going to produce more rubbish than a single person.

[garinda]

As was pointed out, the chips only identify the bin, it's only the trucks that have the capability to weight it.

We all pay differing amounts depending on how much gas or electricity we use. I don't really see a problem if charges are implemented for how much non recycable rubbish we have collected.

[Billcat]

Originally Posted by garinda

We all pay differing amounts depending on how much gas or electricity we use. I don't really see a problem if charges are implemented for how much non recycable rubbish we have collected.

Don't think I can agree with you on that one, rindy! While the concept of paying for what you use is not a bad one in most cases, some folks will certainly try to avoid charges by tipping their junk in all the wrong places. The result will be unsightly and possibly unsanitary. Probably cheaper in the long run to allow folks to use their own bins without worrying about how much additional it will cost them.

In the town where I used to live, the council limited how many black bags you could dispose of without paying additional fees, but allowed folks to buy stickers to put on additional bags of trash. The result was a huge increase in inappropriate tipping. After a couple of years, they reversed the policy. They still do require a sticker for sofas, appliances, and other large items, but they send out two free stickers per household each year. Also, the stickers are inexpensive (roughly 5 pounds for a larger item, and half of that for a smaller one. Compared with the inconvenience of hauling a washing machine or refreigerator yourself it is a pretty fair deal. So far, it's working pretty well.

Understand you were not feeling too well recently, rindy, and hope that things are now a bit better. Going to have to keep working my way up the rankings on the Accyweb quiz!

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by garinda

As was pointed out, the chips only identify the bin, it's only the trucks that have the capability to weight it.

We all pay differing amounts depending on how much gas or electricity we use. I don't really see a problem if charges are implemented for how much non recycable rubbish we have collected.

I have seen the bin men taking the bins, they wouldnt be bothered to weigh them, I once had a bin that was heavy, I asked the bin man will it be to heavy, all he said is that if it lifts its in, if its to heavy the machine wont lift it.

I cant see how it could also be monitered, I usually end up with a different bin every week, regardless on how many time I have wrote my number on it.

[garinda]

The major incidences in the UK of fly tipping results from small businesses having to pay to dump their waste, or indeed illegal firms that are paid to take rubbish, and then dump it illegally.

I'm afraid we'll have to disagree. On such a relatively small group of islands as the UK, we are rapidly running out of places for landfill sites. If paying means we recycle more, so be it. I should also say that I think people that are found to have dumped rubbish illegally should receive heftier fines, or even prison sentences. I'm sure that would stop some of them.

Like other people have said, the sooner supermarkets and the like, realise that if their customers spending habbits are going to be influenced by how much packaging their goods come with, and the resulting cost it entails, big businesses will also follow suit.