Jack Straw, Racist or Correct? - Page 8

walkinman221 · 12-01-2011, 18:59

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Originally Posted by garinda

Exactly.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...h-28259-2.html

Glasshouses springs to mind

JCB · 12-01-2011, 19:00

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Jack Straw's brother found guilty of indecent assault on girl, 16

This is irrelevant to the thread .

Jack Straw is not his brother , and the incident has nothing to do with Jack Straw .

Why bring this up , something that took place more than a decade ago ?

garinda · 12-01-2011, 19:04

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Glasshouses springs to mind

Rather an odd thing to post.

Implying guilt through fraternal association.

Stupid.

Especially posted by the brother of someone infamous.

jaysay · 12-01-2011, 19:09

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Whats that got to do with Jack Straw,it makes no difference to his ability to comment on the issue being discussed. He i suspect is not his brothers keeper just because his brother has been found guilty of this offence, does this make Jack straw guilty by association? He has highlighted a deep rooted problem in what seems to be mostly young asian men, even if it has taken a few years for him to finally highlight the problem having known about it for years apparently.

Totally agree walkinman, as you say he's not his brothers keeper, I'm more concerned that he has kept stum uptill now instead of opening his mouth when he was the Justis secretary

walkinman221 · 12-01-2011, 19:10

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Originally Posted by garinda

Rather an odd thing to post. Implying guilt through fraternal association. Stupid.

True you have to consider your own skeletons before dragging up other peoples

walkinman221 · 12-01-2011, 19:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Totally agree walkinman, as you say he's not his brothers keeper, I'm more concerned that he has kept stum uptill now instead of opening his mouth when he was the Justis secretary

Thats true jay , having said that you only have to remember where his seat was and who were his main voters

garinda · 12-01-2011, 19:24

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Thats true jay , having said that you only have to remember where his seat was and who were his main voters

Don't for get that Straw, on the Nick Griffin Question Time, refused to answer the question three times, when asked if the Labour government's avoidance of anything that could be classed as racist, was in anyway responsible for the rise in right-wing extremism.

The man is a snake.

(For snake read 'a succesful politican'.)

jaysay · 12-01-2011, 19:24

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Thats true jay , having said that you only have to remember where his seat was and who were his main voters

He may actually be standing down at the next election, well you'd think so would you

He don't seem to give a toss now

walkinman221 · 12-01-2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by garinda

Don't for get that Straw, on the Nick Griffin Question Time, refused to answer the question three times, when asked if the Labour government's avoidance of anything that could be classed as racist, was in anyway responsible for the rise in right-wing extremism.

The man is a snake.

(For snake read 'a succesful politican'.)

I am sure if it was racism, it was POSITIVE.

garinda · 12-01-2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay

He may actually be standing down at the next election, well you'd think so would you

He don't seem to give a toss now

Since we already have one sleazy politican as Lord (Taylor of) Blackburn, perhaps Jack will become the Earl of Ewood, on his retirement from the Commons.

jaysay · 12-01-2011, 19:34

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Originally Posted by garinda

Since we already have one sleazy politican as Lord (Taylor of) Blackburn, perhaps Jack will become the Earl of Ewood, on his retirement from the Commons.

Wash your mouth out wi soapy water

kestrelx · 12-01-2011, 23:23

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Whats that got to do with Jack Straw,it makes no difference to his ability to comment on the issue being discussed. He i suspect is not his brothers keeper just because his brother has been found guilty of this offence, does this make Jack straw guilty by association? He has highlighted a deep rooted problem in what seems to be mostly young asian men, even if it has taken a few years for him to finally highlight the problem having known about it for years apparently.

It's got a lot to do with it. There are a lot of middle aged white men grooming girls, the media may not cover it as much as Asian men grooming them. Just in case you pull out some statistics - statistics are not fact.

Concerning my brother - for a start I have not made any statement about this issue so I don't know why some people have brought this up, apart from stirring up trouble!

kestrelx · 12-01-2011, 23:27

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

True you have to consider your own skeletons before dragging up other peoples

They are not my skeletons pal. I am not ashamed of what my brother did.

kestrelx · 12-01-2011, 23:29

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Originally Posted by garinda

Rather an odd thing to post.

Implying guilt through fraternal association.

Stupid.

Especially posted by the brother of someone infamous.

Your talking rot mate! My brother has nothing to do with this issue - it's totally off topic! The post on Straw's brother is bang on the issue - there is a lot more white sex crime going on that is not reported.

garinda · 12-01-2011, 23:59

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

It's got a lot to do with it. There are a lot of middle aged white men grooming girls, the media may not cover it as much as Asian men grooming them. Just in case you pull out some statistics - statistics are not fact.

Concerning my brother - for a start I have not made any statement about this issue so I don't know why some people have brought this up, apart from stirring up trouble!

As stated earlier, there is no evidence that anyone group of people groom children for sex in the more conventional ways, befriending families, running youth organisations, the internet etc.

There is factual evidence that on-street grooming of female children, is racially/culturally motivated.

Fact. Since 1997 of all the 56 gang members who have been prosecuted for grooming/rape, 3 have been white, 53 have been of Asian hertitage background.

All the victims have been white girls aged 11-16.

Only an idiot would try and argue that these crimes aren't racial.

I don't like the fact, but fact it is.

Culturally there is a problem, when a small minority of men are labelling children as 'slags', and there to be used and abused for their pleasure.

The problem hasn't been helped by a society so liberally wooly, that it fears offending a minority, rather than protecting children, and is too afraid to say that a minority of men do see young white girls as easy targets for this abuse.

I mentioned your brother to illustrate the point that no one is responsible for the sins of their sibling, after you tried to cloud this issue by posting a decade old story about Jack Straw's brother.

That was as stupid as not believing this very real problem isn't related to race and culture.