jackson Verdict

[fireman]

I've been trying to say that all day margaret but I suppose everybody has yo have their say too.

[West Ender]

This is obviously a man with severe mental problems. His self-mutilation is witness to that.

Jackson has never denied that he slept with children. In his childish naiveté he did not, however, consider the implications of the euphamism, "sleeping with". I think there probably was some impropriety, it's what little boys do and Jackson seems to have the mentallity of a little boy, but I never believed that there was any sexual corruption or predation.

It is my opinion that rather than facing a trial, brought about only at the instigation of complicit parents looking for financial gain, Jackson should have been referred for psychiatric treatment. Any trial should have been reserved for the parents who, willingly, allowed their children to be exposed to the possibility of abuse then screamed for Big Bucks when the opportunity arose.

[chav1]

all the ay through the case the orviso family said it wasnt about money

the orvisos have got a solicitor already to look into civil action

i hope her case gets booted out before its even heard the cow should be in jail not sueing in court

[cashman]

have read all the replys with interest,what i don,t grasp is how can somebody with pornography books in his bedroom,that was proved!not to mention the wine that was supplied to minors,i just cannot understand how some people think the mans innocent,am i being thick?

[fireman]

A lot of people have so called porn books although these were only over the counter books I think the large doubt created by some of the prosecution witnesses had to create an aquittal it really is the only outcome possible

[West Ender]

No, you're not thick, Cashman. Isn't this, though, just the sort of thing young lads do?

This man has never grown up. He behaves, and has behaved, like a young adolescent living in a fantasy world without a thought for the consequences. The point is, would you let your young son enter his world unless you thought you had something to gain from it? Would any responsible parent do so? Of course not.

I fear for his children.

[fireman]

I bet he has had a very hard word from his lawyers about any repeat of his actions.

[chav1]

my friends dad has an extensive porn collection which me and my friends as young teenagers used to look at as soon as his dad left the house but he isnt a peodophile

in the bedside cabinet is NOT a good place to hide porn lol

when they went to get the porn from jacksons house it was in his bedroom yes but no kids were in there reading it

i would have a different opinion if they had gone to get the porn from neverland and they had walked in on jackson masterbating over porn with kids in the room but they didnt

[cashman]

take your point chav, just saying i would never have let any kids of mine within a hundred miles of neverland,there grown now but their safety was always no1 prority.

[chav1]

i personaly would not leave my kids with anyone unless i was there to keep an eye on them unless it is direct family or a close long term friend

i wouldnt have left my kids with jackson even before any alegations were ever made simply because i dont know him well enough although i would have visited neverand but my kids would have slept in my room no matter who it is my kids stay with me

[garinda]

Yes, the parents are to blame forputting their children in a situation with a man with previous allegations of child molestation against him.

Although it is said pedo's always target their targets well, and this family of poor but greedy down town folk seemed ripe for the picking.

[chav1]

the majority of peodophiles keep some sort of pedo porn to hand like polaroids of naked kids, pics on their computers etc

garry glitter got busted because he had kidi porn on his computer

johnathan king had kidi porn on his pc

wheh you see the news of pedos been invetigated almost every time they are found to posses pictures of their victims or pictures they get off the internet trading with fellow perverts the just cant help themselves

not 1 piece of evidence was shown that jackson had abused a child

no kiddi porn

no semen / no pubic hair / no DNA was presented that had been found on any one of the alleged victims

jacksons trial wa sbased on accusations and no evidence what so ever that jackson had done any sexual act on any child what so ever and it amazes me how this case ever got to court

i would go as far to say that an ordinary man would not have even gone to trial but because he is famous it got media attention and a trial was produced

regulars here have seen my posts on the subject of pedos and i think its fair to say that most would agree that i would slit ones throat without an ounce of remorse

i dont like jackson i definatly am not a fan of his music ( although the dirty diana video was cool ) but i do agree the guy is not wired up right in the head but i dont think hes a peodophile

[Acrylic-bob]

Originally Posted by chav1

but i do agree the guy is not wired up right in the head but i dont think hes a peodophile

Which is fair enough, but what do you make of the admission by some jury members that though they they thought that molestation had taken place, there was just not enough evidence to justify a conviction?

Leopards never change their spots, plastic surgery notwithstanding. It seems clear that money and reputation have won Jackson his freedom this time. Next time, and there will be a next time, he will not be so lucky. I would hazard the guess that in five or ten years time we will be sitting through another court case and yet another string of lurid allegations.

[WillowTheWhisp]

I find it quite disturbing that some of the jurors have said they think he is probably guilty of child molestation but they simply didn't have enough evidence to convict him in this case "beyond the shadow of doubt" which is what was required.

I had actually expected a hung jury and a retrial and perhaps those who are now saying they believe he was guilty but just not proven would have been better leaving it at that and going for a retrial with a different jury.

Maybe there's also a place in the justice system for the Scottish verdict of "not proven".

[cashman]

i hate the creep,don't much like his music either,saw what the jury said willow,but much as it pains me i don't think a retrail would render a differant verdict,not sufficient evidence means just that, the scottish case of not proven is certainly one i would like to see adopted.