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Old 22-03-2008, 18:35   #16
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If Easter fluctuates because of that then why is Christams Day on the same date every year ?
So that blondes don't forget it
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Old 22-03-2008, 18:41   #17
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So that blondes don't forget it
More likely to be the blondes hubby who forgets
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Old 22-03-2008, 19:26   #18
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Christianity was constructed according to the timetables of earlier beliefs in order to make it more palatable for the masses (oops, a pun). I do believe this is called synchretism, but I may be wrong. One can see it in many countries in South America.
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Old 23-03-2008, 09:06   #19
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This from the ever useful Wikipedia seems to sum the matter up in a nutshell, incidentally, Parliament decided that the date should be fixed each year; The Easter Act 1928, which is still on the statute book.

"Easter, also called Pascha, is the most important religious feast in the Christian liturgical year. It celebrates the resurrection of Jesus, which Christians believe occurred on the third day after his crucifixion around AD 33. Many non-religious cultural elements have become part of the holiday, and those aspects are often celebrated by many Christians and non-Christians alike.

Easter also refers to the season of the church year called Eastertide or the Easter Season. Traditionally the Easter Season lasted for the forty days from Easter Day until Ascension Day but now officially lasts for the fifty days until Pentecost. The first week of the Easter Season is known as Easter Week or the Octave of Easter.

Easter is termed a moveable feast because it is not fixed in relation to the civil calendar. Easter falls at some point between late March and late April each year (early April to early May in Eastern Christianity), following the cycle of the moon. After several centuries of disagreement, all churches accepted the computation of the Alexandrian Church (now the Coptic Church) that Easter is the first Sunday after the first fourteenth day of the moon (the Paschal Full Moon) that is on or after the ecclesiastical vernal equinox.

Easter is linked to the Jewish Passover not only for much of its symbolism but also for its position in the calendar. The Last Supper shared by Jesus and his disciples before his crucifixion is generally thought of as a Passover meal, based on the chronology in the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew 26:17; Mark 14:12; Luke 22:7). The Gospel of John, however, speaks of the Jewish elders not wanting to enter the hall of Pilate in order "that they might eat the Passover", implying that the Passover meal had not yet occurred (John 18:28; John 19:14). Thus, John places Christ's death at the time of the slaughter of the Passover lamb, which would put the Last Supper slightly before Passover, on 14 Nisan of the Bible's Hebrew calendar. According to The Catholic Encyclopedia, "In fact, the Jewish feast was taken over into the Christian Easter celebration."
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Old 25-03-2008, 16:55   #20
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I am pointing out the hypocrisy of Christianity. For one in the bible it is against astrology and also the Christians persecuted and killed witches, for example the Pendle Witches. The moon is always linked with paganism and witchcraft and therefore the fact that Easter the supposed death and ressurection of the son of god (also why did god only have a son and not a daughter? Could this be because the early Catholic Church did not want women to have any power in the church) is on a day that is linked to the relationship of the spring equinox and the full moon both days associated with things Christinaity is supposed to be against. It's a joke that they worship this on a day of witches a full moon or near to a full moon.

I don't believe there was a Jesus, I think it's a fairy tale for adults - there are too many holes in the Gospels and it took years for the founding fathers of Christianity to chose and edit the Gospels! Jesus' death should be on the same day every year if he really existed but they can't do that because then it would not fit into the fantasy of Easter in which he was supposedly put on the cross on Friday and ressurected on Sunday! It doesn't make rational sense!

Back a few hundred years ago they'd say I was the devil for saying this but now it has all changed as the church loses power!

Thanks all for your contributions and I hope you enjoyed your "pagan" easter eggs!

P.S. both Tony Blair and George Bush were motivated to go to war in the name of Christianity!
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Old 25-03-2008, 18:17   #21
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Old 25-03-2008, 18:26   #22
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Constantine who decided to unify all religions was a Pagan. For example:

Angels Halo's have been taken from Egyptian Sun Discs, The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, Jesus' actual Birthday is thought to be some time in April. Christianity honored the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, but Constantine shifted it to coincide with the pagan's veneration day of the sun.

Most of these things, including when Easter should be held were decided by the Council of Nicaea.
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Old 08-11-2008, 13:42   #23
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Anyone who is a Christian or has any interest in religion should look at this video at this link

and then ask the question, "how come the fundamental beliefs about Christianity have been used in other religions 1,000's of years before Jesus?

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Old 08-11-2008, 18:28   #24
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The truth is what you believe to be true,No body will change your mind and rightly so.
Just keep your beliefs to yourself and all will be well.
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Old 08-11-2008, 18:48   #25
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always puzzeled me how Easter falls differant every year, if jesus was topped on a certain date now known as good friday, then to me the following year should fall on thurs or sat etc n certainly the same month. that has never sat well with me.
Didn't sit too well with JC either
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Old 09-11-2008, 00:33   #26
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People are free to make their own minds up abour religion.

Preaching by zealous unbelievers is as tiresome as that by the most pushy of converts.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:11   #27
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Its true what they say you should never talk about politics and religion, each is personal choice and no amount of arguing will change that
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Old 11-11-2008, 18:26   #28
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Thing is for 100's of years people weren't allowed to make up their own minds about religion they had it rammed down their throats.
I'm not pushing anything. You don't have to read it!

This is all about debate?
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Old 11-11-2008, 18:29   #29
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Answer this. If he does come back, as many believe, do you think he's going to want to see another cross?
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:41   #30
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Answer this. If he does come back, as many believe, do you think he's going to want to see another cross?
He would never come back to this

He aint that stupid lol
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