Jesus Christ Prince of Peace? - Page 3

jaysay · 12-11-2008, 10:58

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Thing is for 100's of years people weren't allowed to make up their own minds about religion they had it rammed down their throats.
I'm not pushing anything. You don't have to read it!

This is all about debate?

As a practicing Christian, I can't see any reason why you should bare your religious views on a web site. I have exactly the same view about people who come knocking on your door also peddling their religion. I am 62 years of age and wouldn't dream of boring any one else with my beliefs. so why should you. Peoples religious views are not up for debate, religion is not debatable, a person believes what they believe. I'm sure if you want to debate religion there are web sites which cater of people like yourself, I don't really think Accy Web is one of them

Less · 12-11-2008, 11:31

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Thing is for 100's of years people weren't allowed to make up their own minds about religion they had it rammed down their throats.
I'm not pushing anything. You don't have to read it!

This is all about debate?

Yes, you are pushing something, you are pushing your ideas down the throats of anyone that innocently comes onto this thread, You are welcome to your non-beliefs just keep them to yourself.

As rindy has already said

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People are free to make their own minds up about religion.

Preaching by zealous unbelievers is as tiresome as that by the most pushy of converts.

It may help if you do some sensible studying of the subject rather than put forward views that the rest of us atheists haven't used since junior school.

kestrelx · 13-11-2008, 11:26

At the end of the day people that are getting angry about this don't know the facts and don't want to know the facts. If you study mythology it is a fact that several religions that pre-date Christianty by 100's of years used the same ideas - you people that are getting angry do not want to know the facts. Dionysus was also put on a cross 100's of years before so called Jesus - so the claim that the foundation of Christianity are unique to it are not true! Any one who dismisses this is not being reasonable or rational because a little bit of study will prove it to be true! Also my views arn't religous they are historical - I am looking at similar ideas that were used a long time before Christianity but are claimed by Christianiy to be unique to it when they arn't!

cashman · 13-11-2008, 11:32

no kestrel you are being unreasonable n unrational, if you think anyone will study something they either do not give a stuff about, or have there own beliefs.

Less · 13-11-2008, 11:35

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

At the end of the day people that are getting angry about this don't know the facts and don't want to know the facts. If you study mythology it is a fact that several religions that pre-date Christianty by 100's of years used the same ideas - you people that are getting angry do not want to know the facts. Dionysus was also put on a cross 100's of years before so called Jesus - so the claim that the foundation of Christianity are unique to it are not true! Any one who dismisses this is not being reasonable or rational because a little bit of study will prove it to be true! Also my views arn't religous they are historical - I am looking at similar ideas that were used a long time before Christianity but are claimed by Christianiy to be unique to it when they arn't!

Rubbish, you just wanted a poke at people that believe, their belief doesn't make them inferior to you, a good atheist leaves them alone until they start then, shoots them down if it's needed, which it isn't, leave them to enjoy their beliefs until they tread on your toes otherwise you are turning atheism into a religion.

kestrelx · 13-11-2008, 11:40

Think what you want mate! All I know is the Christianity and Christians have had a damging effect on my life and others. I'm not saying all Christians but some who I have been in contact with recently have been hypocrits and nasty folks - then they go and pray to Jesus and think that makes it alright! It doesn't.
I posted my message originally because it was Easter and I wanted to make a comment that it is irrational that Easter is on a different day each year when if there was a real Jesus, it would be the same day/date every year. But it's not, So I wanted to ask that question, so that means logic dictates he didn't die on one day. If someone exists physically and they die they are remembered on the same day every year. But not so with Jesus. His day changes every year which brings up some serious questions - for anyone who thinks for themselves.

emamum · 13-11-2008, 12:12

JESUS CHRIST! this thread is boring me.....

MargaretR · 13-11-2008, 12:23

An Atheist's view - and I am not suggesting that you should agree with it

Most people behave humanely towards their fellow men/women
because it is the way to ensure successful survival in any society.
This is a basic instinct amongst any animal that lives in social groups.

There is a conflict with another basic instinct for selfishness.
The two are in conflict, and societies adopted religion as a means to supress
that selfishness. It provides them with a reason to conform to a society's rules.
(for those who need a reason)

It is dangerous to attempt to persuade people to abandon their religion as long as
some people need a religion in order to behave in a civilised way.
I can't ever see a time when that won't be neccessary.

In the interest of peaceful co-existance, it is wisest to leave people with the beliefs that they have,
even though you may not agree with them.

Live and let live ---- an essential strategy for a peaceful existance

beechy · 13-11-2008, 13:41

its always been a Mythtery to me
one day soon i may discover the truth
when that happens ill report back via
Mythtic Meg

Meccy · 13-11-2008, 16:55

Blessed are the cheese makers!

AccyLass · 13-11-2008, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Meccy

Blessed are the cheese makers!

Are these the ones that squish and squish the cheese so it looks square? Or round? Or triangle?

They are blessed with cheese making....equipment (whatever it is they use

)

emamum · 13-11-2008, 17:05

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Originally Posted by AccyLass28

Are these the ones that squish and squish the cheese so it looks square? Or round? Or triangle?

They are blessed with cheese making....equipment (whatever it is they use

)

are they the technical terms?