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View Poll Results: Should returning Jihadists be banned completely from Britain.
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No they should never be allowed back.
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Allowed back if they promise to be good citizens after 2 years.
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14-11-2014, 23:15
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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14-11-2014, 23:17
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer
Unfortunately Gordon, the majority of comments in this thread are going to be by the ukip brigade and that reasoning is no better than the disillusioned youth that are going to fight imo.
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Sweeping statement from someone who usually plagiarises the words of others whilst claiming them as their own..
Sweeping statement from someone who decries the reasoning of others on this forum, whilst giving no logical argument or statement of his own personal belief to counter the original post.
You are NOT in the least bit amusing, you are NOT the voice of reason, you are NOT the voice of political correctness, you are NOT even a troll...you are simply one of those idiots who trawls the internet forums looking for somewhere that you can pretend to be educated and thoughtful...and..
You are failing miserably...
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I think 2years is 23months too long give them a couple of weeks on the naughty step
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Sweeping statement from someone who places his trademark inane emoticon at the end of an incendiary post so that he can backtrack and claim it as a joke.
I'd love to see you in a pub with a relative of a beheaded victim pontificating about sitting a supporter of the culprit on the naughty step for a month.
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14-11-2014, 23:52
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
There's quite a few presumptions in your erroneous analyse G
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15-11-2014, 00:05
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer
There's quite a few presumptions in your erroneous analyse G
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Actually they are observations..made over many months...
Then again I'm open to you showing me how you don't steal other peoples work, pointing me to a post you've made using your own words about evidencing your beliefs or a post where someone actually laughed at your emote.
And, grammar police alert, the plural is 'analyses'..if you are going to try to be clever....get it right!
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15-11-2014, 00:12
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
They may be "observations" but they are erroneous none the less,I could show you how your incorrect but I won't bother,I'll just let you (and others) make their assumptions.....
...Congrats on being a member of the pedant police
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15-11-2014, 00:21
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
Nonetheless is a single word by the way....and there are no assumptions necessary when the evidence is plain to see for everyone..
..right down to your last two replies which both contained the trademark inane emoticon
Keep digging
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15-11-2014, 10:16
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer
,I could show you how your incorrect but I won't bother....
...Congrats on being a member of the pedant police
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you're
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15-11-2014, 12:00
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer
I could show you how your incorrect but I won't bother,I'll just let you (and others) make their assumptions.....
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why won't you bother to show us that we have you pegged wrongly Jason?
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by showing us that we are wrong.....and I for one would like the opportunity to see why we are wrong and apologise for my wrongly held assumptions.
I have absolutely no problem at all in accepting that not everyone will have the same opinions that I have......I respect the right for you to hold other opinions to those that I cherish......it is what makes this country so tolerant and accepting of others.
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15-11-2014, 12:02
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
Winters kicking in,Is there any chance I could bask in the glow of one our superior members self righteousness?
For the record,(I believe) its the west (mostly the U.S. and it's lapdog known Britain) who are the real terrorists and a threat to the rest of world [insert "trademark emoticon"].
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15-11-2014, 12:13
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
why won't you bother to show us that we have you pegged wrongly Jason?
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by showing us that we are wrong.
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I have nothing to lose or gain by proving anything M, I'm a member on other forums as well as Accyweb and sometimes I copy and paste my comments from each forum especially when discussing the same topics but that's here nor there.
I admit, I have stole other folks comments (it's easier sometimes due to me struggling to type on this ruddy phone).
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15-11-2014, 12:16
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer
Winters kicking in,Is there any chance I could bask in the glow of one our superior members self righteousness?
For the record,(I believe) its the west (mostly the U.S. and it's lapdog known Britain) who are the real terrorists and a threat to the rest of world [insert "trademark emoticon"].
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No, but you can freeze in the winter of all your superior members discontent.
As for your second paragraph - you'd get in the Guinness Book of Records for talking bull.
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15-11-2014, 12:23
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
so you believe that we the members of Accyweb are self righteous....and that we are to blame for the barbaric IS regime....that we are to blame for the sh1t pit that is the political scene in the middle east do you?
That we are the terrorists? Try telling that to Allan Hennings wife.....a lowly taxi driver who was out in Syria delivering humanitarian aid...along with Muslim colleagues(also taxi drivers).
Try telling that to the people these men have committed genocide against...Oh you can't because they were murdered for holding firm another faith.
I don't know if you remember that many people were against going to war in the middle East...there were demonstrations against it in London (and other large cities) but Tony Blair wanted to go down in the history books...and so for his hubristic ideals...and perhaps to curry favour with the US that is what happened......I do not recall one member of Accyweb being involved in this decision.....in fact I think at the time, many of us felt that this was going to open a can of worms.
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The world will not be destroyed by evil people...
It will be destroyed by those who stand by and do Nothing.
(a paraphrase on a quote by Albert Einstein)
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15-11-2014, 12:27
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Beacon of light
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer
I have nothing to lose or gain by proving anything M, I'm a member on other forums as well as Accyweb and sometimes I copy and paste my comments from each forum especially when discussing the same topics but that's here nor there.
I admit, I have stole other folks comments (it's easier sometimes due to me struggling to type on this ruddy phone).
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I think you are wrong Jason...you can gain reputation...or change reputation.
If you do use something from another site then it is courteous to attribute it to where ever the quote was taken from......even if you use your own comments made on another site, it is good to say that that is what you have done.
It is an honest way to post.
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The world will not be destroyed by evil people...
It will be destroyed by those who stand by and do Nothing.
(a paraphrase on a quote by Albert Einstein)
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15-11-2014, 12:42
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
so you believe that we the members of Accyweb are self righteous....and that we are to blame for the barbaric IS regime....that we are to blame for the sh1t pit that is the political scene in the middle east do you?
That we are the terrorists? Try telling that to Allan Hennings wife.....a lowly taxi driver who was out in Syria delivering humanitarian aid...along with Muslim colleagues(also taxi drivers).
Try telling that to the people these men have committed genocide against...Oh you can't because they were murdered for holding firm another faith.
I don't know if you remember that many people were against going to war in the middle East...there were demonstrations against it in London (and other large cities) but Tony Blair wanted to go down in the history books...and so for his hubristic ideals...and perhaps to curry favour with the US that is what happened......I do not recall one member of Accyweb being involved in this decision.....in fact I think at the time, many of us felt that this was going to open a can of worms.
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Do I think we are to blame for the "sh1t pit"? Partly to blame,yes.
Do I think we fall under the definition of a terrorist? Yes.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again "I don't have all the answers" but I can see things from the other side a concept that 'some' members find hard.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
I think you are wrong Jason...you can gain reputation...or change reputation.
If you do use something from another site then it is courteous to attribute it to where ever the quote was taken from......even if you use your own comments made on another site, it is good to say that that is what you have done.
It is an honest way to post.
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I know what your saying M,but I (sadly) enjoy folk making judgments about who I am and what I'm about.
I may well be a "troll" but I think we all have the potential to be a troll to some degree,it's just a matter of prospective.i'll bare your comment in mind for any future comments I may post
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15-11-2014, 12:54
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Re: Jihadist returning from Syria.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Because I do not. I don't want to hang them.....I just don't want them to be able to come back and take the freedom that they enjoyed in this country, for granted.
I do not want them to be able to access health care at no cost...I do not want them to be able to access benefits....and I do not care if they have paid into them. The moment they signed up with a foreign force is the moment when they signed away all of those rights.
We, in this country, are just too soft....too tolerant...too forgiving.
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It ain't gonna happen Margaret, there will be legal challenge on legal challenge going on for months.
Remember the problems we had deporting al Mahsri and Quatada?
The courts will be clogged up and the fat cat lawyers will get fatter.
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