Judging a book by it's cover.

[Guinness]

Total agreement with Garinda here, far too many people being judgemental with some posters.

I'd like to think some of you would feel ashamed if you found out, for example, that you were ridiculing someone with a learning disability who was being encouraged to use this forum as a way of socialising and integrating.

Strange how some of you make allowances for Jaysays crap spelling or Cashmans 'type as I speak' style, yet attack someone because they make mundane posts.

(btw..not an attack on either Jaysay or Cashy, just using you as examples of people who do not follow the established 'norm')

[Mancie]

Even a halfwit could see the bloke/women is either an adult with some issues or a kid ... either way I've never seen this person react with any kind of abuse to the ridicule he/she has been subject to by some people on here that consider themselves responsable adults..(yet another first on here) some have kicked the kak out of this member...a good old fashioned playground bullying by the "big kids"

[cashman]

thing is guinness if someone tells obvious lies, then what do yeh expect? say nowt?

[garinda]

The person concerned is twelve, and isn't thirteen until next year.

The years since they left primary school was merely my way of pointing out that he is actually a young person, and not as many still think an adult, posting under an assumed name. I did this to help protect his anonymity, not knowing forum rules about age. As far as I was aware I thought a twelve year old could be a member here, the same as anyone else.

I do feel guilty, if it it turns out they are unable to post until forum administrators receive written parental consent, allowing their child to participate on Accy Web.

I do not feel guilty about revealing their age if it helps prevent the continuing sniping aimed at them.

I hope they do carry on posting.

Enthusiasm isn't a crime, even if others might not share it.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

The person concerned is twelve, and isn't thirteen until next year..

I do not feel guilty about revealing their age if it helps prevent the continuing sniping aimed at them.

I hope they do carry on posting.

Enthusiasm isn't a crime, even if others might not share it.

To my mind some people should have sussed this out and taken some care in how they give the usual slagging to some new members.. we are talking about grown men and women verbally attacking someone because in thier view they make mudane posts.. it's not as if this member has been posting anything that could upset people it's simple bullying.

[Alan Varrechia]

I think he may be young enough that most of the sarcasm and vitriol would have gone straight over his head. I hope so anyway.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by garinda

The person concerned is twelve, and isn't thirteen until next year.

The years since they left primary school was merely my way of pointing out that he is actually a young person, and not as many still think an adult, posting under an assumed name. I did this to help protect his anonymity, not knowing forum rules about age. As far as I was aware I thought a twelve year old could be a member here, the same as anyone else.

I do feel guilty, if it it turns out they are unable to post until forum administrators receive written parental consent, allowing their child to participate on Accy Web.

I do not feel guilty about revealing their age if it helps prevent the continuing sniping aimed at them.

I hope they do carry on posting.

Enthusiasm isn't a crime, even if others might not share it.

There you go, an explanation of the posts, a young person interested in what is happening in the local area, what shops have closed, when and where...seems to me a future Retlaw who in another 50 years or so will be able to fill Accrington Library with first hand information of what happened in Accrington in 2011...not so mundane now..eh?

[cashman]

if yeh cant see the difference between what Retlaw is doing n why, then yeh musta had one to many.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

To my mind some people should have sussed this out and taken some care in how they give the usual slagging to some new members.. we are talking about grown men and women verbally attacking someone because in thier view they make mudane posts.. it's not as if this member has been posting anything that could upset people it's simple bullying.

The conspiracy theorists believe the person is already an active adult member of this forum.

They suspected it was Romps, Neil, Roy, or Less, that I heard of. There could have been more.

When it's been stated that it is actually a 'real' young person, but the sniping will continue, because some haven't seen 'proof' personally, doesn't reflect well on us all.

I don't ever remember being asked to prove who I was on here, and produce my birth certificate, and N.I. number etc., and send copies to every single member of Accy Web.

Besides apparently breaking a rule about needing parental consent, this member has never been nasty to anyone. They're cheerful, enthusiastic, and interested in the local community, and the area in general.

Hopefully this will be sorted, and we all might afford a warmer welcome, to them, and any other young person who joins us, and who has an interest in what's happening in the world.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by cashman

if yeh cant see the difference between what Retlaw is doing n why, then yeh musta had one to many.

I take your point, only Retlaw can say where, when and why he got the bug to be a local historian, all I'm saying is the youngster is showing an interest in all things local, questioning and asking us old fogies about stuff he/she ain't sure about and best of all ain't out on the streets causing mayhem, which should be applauded

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Guinness

I take your point, only Retlaw can say where, when and why he got the bug to be a local historian, all I'm saying is the youngster is showing an interest in all things local, questioning and asking us old fogies about stuff he/she ain't sure about and best of all ain't out on the streets causing mayhem, which should be applauded

You're right.

Some have sussed why a certain young person might seem to have an obsessive interest in certain things.

There is a reason why this is, and it's not unusual, given the circumstances.

I am not going to publicly give further details.

I feel bad, for having to give the details I have.

Regardless of age, every member here has the right to anonymity, and privacy, unless they wish to discuss details of their lives publicly.

[Wynonie Harris]

I agree that bullying a 12 year old who's not in a position to defend themselves is totally out of order.

However, would it not help if their profile was more accurate? At the moment it says they're a "30 year old Ossy resident with a wife and kids" who works in the NHS. Personally, I believe that the person is who Gary and Neil say they are and I have stopped taking the mick. However, others still have doubts. Would it not help to remove those doubts if their profile was, without going into details, more accurate?

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

I agree that bullying a 12 year old who's not in a position to defend themselves is totally out of order.

However, would it not help if their profile was more accurate? At the moment it says they're a "30 year old Ossy resident with a wife and kids" who works in the NHS. Personally, I believe that the person is who Gary and Neil say they are and I have stopped taking the mick. However, others still have doubts. Would it not help to remove those doubts if their profile was, without going into details, more accurate?

Why would you beleive that if the person concerned has already stated he/she works and drives a car

I had to wait until I was 17 to drive, 16 to work and even now I get posts deleted under the rules of Accyweb, and I'm over 13

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Why would you beleive that if the person concerned has already stated he/she works and drives a car

I had to wait until I was 17 to drive, 16 to work and even now I get posts deleted under the rules of Accyweb, and I'm over 13

Maybe part of their "problem" is the need to invent a fantasy alias?

[flashy]

If this person IS 12 which i highly doubt he is....why didn't his best mate NEIL who is supposed to know forum rules being a mod and all that, stop his account? Funny that aint it? Utter bull as usual