Just before the robbing Tory budget - Page 2

Margaret Pilkington · 08-06-2010, 10:57

And by the way Mancie, thankyou for your gift of negative Karma...it shows that a nerve was touched there....but it does mean that you have read what I posted.

Mancie · 08-06-2010, 10:57

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

One thing we do know about the cuts as they effect Hyndburn, is that there's already been an 18% cut in our Housing Market Renewal Programme, which equates to about a reduction of 1.6 million. And we have been warned that a deeper cut could follow in the budget on the 22nd June.

So that means no new houses in the next 2yrs.. I may be biased but this does not look like the investment for the future Cameron (and Clegg) talked about.

Mancie · 08-06-2010, 11:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

And by the way Mancie, thankyou for your gift of negative Karma...it shows that a nerve was touched there....but it does mean that you have read what I posted.

You are welcome.. maybe my nerves get touched when someone who proclaims to be neutral has spent the last 3 months slagging off this country..and tells us it's all Gordon Browns fault for the savage cuts this Government will impose on the less well off in our SOCIETY.

Margaret Pilkington · 08-06-2010, 11:10

To whom are you referring in your last post.
If you mean me then say so.....and provide evidence of the posts where for the last 3 months I have 'slagged off' this country.
And you misrepresent me when you say it is Gordon Browns fault for the savage cuts which will be required to get the country back on track......it is the whole of the Labour governments fault....and if you cannot see this then you should be applying for a dog and a white stick.

BERNADETTE · 08-06-2010, 11:17

Is it not about time that facts were faced???? There isn't one party who have tackled the problems that really need tackling, i.e unemployment, immigration. You would have to be blind not to see that the last thirteen years have hardly been successful on either fronts. Here in Accrington nearly all our major employers have gone Rist Wires, TML (or whatever they were trading as on closure), Nori Brick Yard to name but a few. This country can't afford to just keep letting immigrants arrive here and use our Health Services, education etc without making a contribution yet it continues to do so. (and before anybody calls me racist I'm not just sensible). These issues and many more need tackling but are any of the parties up to the job? No I don't think they are, do you know different????

Mancie · 08-06-2010, 11:25

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

To whom are you referring in your last post.
If you mean me then say so.....and provide evidence of the posts where for the last 3 months I have 'slagged off' this country.
And you misrepresent me when you say it is Gordon Browns fault for the savage cuts which will be required to get the country back on track......it is the whole of the Labour governments fault....and if you cannot see this then you should be applying for a dog and a white stick.

How can it be the past Labour Government be blamed for cuts this Government will employ?.. in this country the Government are all powerful.. with an overall majority they do what they wish... Gordon Brown nor Labour have a say in it and that's the way it should be.
In the past Margaret you have in your posts pointed out to people that it's no use blaming Thatcher or the last Tory Government.. yet you are quick to blame Labour and Brown.

Mancie · 08-06-2010, 11:34

Why do we have to suffer these cuts?.. Britain is still the 6th wealtheist nation in the world..and only 2nd behind Germany in Europe... the media have talked us into a doom and gloom future for their own intrests.. Sky..ITV most of the newspapers and even the BBC are managed by the top 2% richest in the world.. they have a very real reason to talk not only this country but all of the western economies into grabbing money from the rest of us.

cashman · 08-06-2010, 13:58

To me its about time ya all woke up, labour did this, tories did that,

they are all complete *******, n look after there own, not us ya dummies, get real n stuff em all.

Wynonie Harris · 08-06-2010, 14:09

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Originally Posted by cashman

get real n stuff em all.

...and so say all (well, most) of us!

jaysay · 08-06-2010, 14:54

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

One thing we do know about the cuts as they effect Hyndburn, is that there's already been an 18% cut in our Housing Market Renewal Programme, which equates to about a reduction of 1.6 million. And we have been warned that a deeper cut could follow in the budget on the 22nd June.

Which would have been arranged well before may sixth Bernie old chap

garinda · 08-06-2010, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Why do we have to suffer these cuts?.. Britain is still the 6th wealtheist nation in the world..and only 2nd behind Germany in Europe... the media have talked us into a doom and gloom future for their own intrests.. Sky..ITV most of the newspapers and even the BBC are managed by the top 2% richest in the world.. they have a very real reason to talk not only this country but all of the western economies into grabbing money from the rest of us.

Pre-election, Labour also faced up to the fact they too would have to impose severe cuts, in an attempt to sort out the current financial mess we're in, but they said they'd hold back doing it immediately, so as not to 'damage the economic recovery', but which we all know was really a way of trying to woo the electorate, by not having to think about cuts in the here and now.

Socially, and morally, the successive Labour governments made some historic inroads.

However, when it came to economics, they were hopeless.

They also courted the city financiers just as much as any previous Tory governments, and succeeded in making London the destination of choice for every dodgy oligarch, and dubious billionaire...hardly the actions of a party connected in anyway to socialism.

Under new Labour champagne flowed in trendy Islington, and a boom was enjoyed, with no thought of tomorrow.

We've had the boom, now it's cuts, or bust.

As others have pointed out, if you ran a household like the country has been managed, we'd now be pushing our worldly goods down the street in an old pram.

The political blindness exhibited by Mancie, Jaysay & co. can be quite amusing, if it wasn't also a little sad.

Like a red and blue Chuckle Bothers.

To me (it's Thatcher's fault), to you (no it isn't, it was all down to Callaghan).

steeljack · 08-06-2010, 15:47

the video in original post was interesting , almost as if the producers had graduated from the Leni Riefenstahl school of film-making

garinda · 08-06-2010, 15:53

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Originally Posted by steeljack

the video in original post was interesting , almost as if the producers had graduated from the Leni Riefenstahl school of film-making

Lol, from bending and stretching with a swastika, to Nubian dongs, in three easy steps, over a six decade time frame.

She was always very well turned out, mind.

Bernard Dawson · 08-06-2010, 18:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Which would have been arranged well before may sixth Bernie old chap

The 18% cut in Housing Market Renewal funding for Hyndburn was part of the £6.2 billion cuts, that the new Chancellor George Osborne announced, two weeks after the General Election.

Bernard Dawson · 08-06-2010, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Mancie

So that means no new houses in the next 2yrs.. I may be biased but this does not look like the investment for the future Cameron (and Clegg) talked about.

Not only no new houses. But it looks like we not going to get anywhere near the money we were hoping for, and money we need to renovate areas such as East Accrington.