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cashman · 15-05-2010, 09:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay

You seem to forget just how much debt this country is in Ken, when you borrow money at the same rat of knots as this last government did, without any sort of idea how to pay it back, or were not bothered because they were quite aware that once again it wouldn't be them who has to clear the mess up, when you borrow money whether it be national Government or the ordinary man in the street, there comes a time when you have to admit that you need to address your finances, unfortunately Labour never have and always let others clean up their mess, and it is a mess

selective memory, seem to remember the mess they were in when labour came to power.

thats the differance between us- i know all of ems *******.

Less · 15-05-2010, 09:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay

rat of knots

Is my memory going? I thought this last fiasco was brought on by a Global recession, not some labour inspired let's have a joke ready for when the Tories come to power.

Any way it's time for everyone in the whole world to buckle down and pay Benipete back, he can't support us all forever.

Ken Moss · 15-05-2010, 09:40

We were, very slowly, pulling ourselves out of recession. The situation was not ideal and I make no pretence that elements of the banking sector were allowed to get away with murder under the Labour government but the majority that have heavy state ownership are beginning to steadily repay their debts.

What will now happen is that the Tories (whilst trying to delude us that they're in coalition) will rape all the frontline services claiming that they had no choice due to Labour's mistakes.

In five years time, they will pledge more money for frontline services and we'll be expected to believe that it's sodding Christmas by simply offering us what they cut in the first place.

'The previous government' is the all-purpose excuse for any sticky situation they find themselves in and it hacks me off that it's the best excuse they can come up with.

That (if you're listening, Wynonie) is why I stick to local politics.

jaysay · 15-05-2010, 09:41

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Originally Posted by cashman

selective memory, seem to remember the mess they were in when labour came to power.

thats the differance between us- i know all of ems *******.

In 1997 Labour inherited the best economic figures of any incoming government in history, and squandered it, increased taxes to the highest in the countries history, sold of assets, such as the Gold reserves, and borrowed money like here was no tomorrow, a recipe for disaster and that's just what we've been left with

Less · 15-05-2010, 09:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay

In 1997 Labour inherited the best economic figures of any incoming government in history, and squandered it, increased taxes to the highest in the countries history, sold of assets, such as the Gold reserves, and borrowed money like here was no tomorrow, a recipe for disaster and that's just what we've been left with

Was this thanks to the previous government raping such things as North Sea Oil, British Gas, British Telecomm', Electricity, Water,

Me?

derekgas · 21-05-2010, 20:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay

You seem to forget just how much debt this country is in Ken, when you borrow money at the same rat of knots as this last government did, without any sort of idea how to pay it back, or were not bothered because they were quite aware that once again it wouldn't be them who has to clear the mess up, when you borrow money whether it be national Government or the ordinary man in the street, there comes a time when you have to admit that you need to address your finances, unfortunately Labour never have and always let others clean up their mess, and it is a mess

As I said Jaysay, it matters not who is in power, they know it is for a limited period, and that the next elected government will have to clean up the mess, consequence... each party doesnt give a monkeys what mess they make, because they dont have to sort it out, the only penalty is being voted out at the next election, if there was a punishment, ie, they pay a percentage of the deficit back from their salary, they would think more carefully, if the common man worked for his employer the same way as many mp's do, they would be out on their ear within a month.

Wynonie Harris · 21-05-2010, 20:42

So true, Derek, so true.

jaysay · 22-05-2010, 09:30

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Originally Posted by derekgas

As I said Jaysay, it matters not who is in power, they know it is for a limited period, and that the next elected government will have to clean up the mess, consequence... each party doesn't give a monkeys what mess they make, because they dont have to sort it out, the only penalty is being voted out at the next election, if there was a punishment, if, they pay a percentage of the deficit back from their salary, they would think more carefully, if the common man worked for his employer the same way as many mp's do, they would be out on their ear within a month.

Unfortunately Derek that's a layman's way of looking at things, even though ever word you say is true, but paying back out of their salary

, whats £1 trillion split 650 ways

Wynonie Harris · 22-05-2010, 09:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Unfortunately Derek that's a layman's way of looking at things, even though ever word you say is true, but paying back out of their salary

, whats £1 trillion split 650 ways

Obviously a drop in the ocean, but if they knew they might cop for a cut in their salaries, it might concentrate their minds on making a better job of things!

jaysay · 22-05-2010, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Obviously a drop in the ocean, but if they knew they might cop for a cut in their salaries, it might concentrate their minds on making a better job of things!

Ya reght

you've far more faith than me Wyn

jaysay · 22-05-2010, 10:43

Just for you Wyn, just for You

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Wynonie Harris · 22-05-2010, 10:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya reght

you've far more faith than me Wyn

Oh, I know perfectly well it won't happen, Jaysay, as the majority of politicos (with certain honourable exceptions across the political spectrum0 are greedy, grabbing, self-interested sods!

jaysay · 22-05-2010, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Oh, I know perfectly well it won't happen, Jaysay, as the majority of politicos (with certain honourable exceptions across the political spectrum0 are greedy, grabbing, self-interested sods!

with certain Honourable exceptions, in that context, is rather an oxymoron don't you think Wyn

Wynonie Harris · 22-05-2010, 10:49

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Just for you Wyn, just for You

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Doesn't surprise me at all. The difference between me and you is that you seem to have some sort of faith in the Tory lot. I know most of 'em - Tory. Labour, Lib/Dem - are snout-dipping troughers.

Wynonie Harris · 22-05-2010, 10:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay

with certain Honourable exceptions, in that context, is rather an oxymoron don't you think Wyn

In my view, your buddy, Ken Hargreaves was one of the exceptions. I also reckon Graham Jones is another. Both decent, local blokes, who are genuinely concerned about helping their constituents, rather than lining their pockets or furthering their parliamentary careers. Obviously, your blue blinkers won't allow you to agree with me on the latter.