Kids behavior no worse than before - Page 8

Mancie · 17-02-2009, 02:59

I like blinkers.. because it gets me thinking that most people on her start harking on about "when i went to " such and such a school in accy or Ossy.. it means nothing...the vast amount of posters on here will have been educated in the Accy/Osiie area .. it's Accy web.. but you lot go on as if it's all in a mess.. when the reality is that this Government has given a massive increase in education.. massive.. yet you will moan.. no not you the thread starter Jaysay.. a well known tory bod that will post propaganda at any instance...that's what this boils down too.. and poeple.. bite the bait

garinda · 17-02-2009, 03:06

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I like blinkers.. because it gets me thinking that most people on her start harking on about "when i went to " such and such a school in accy or Ossy.. it means nothing...the vast amount of posters on here will have been educated in the Accy/Osiie area .. it's Accy web.. but you lot go on as if it's all in a mess.. when the reality is that this Government has given a massive increase in education.. massive.. yet you will moan.. no not you the thread starter Jaysay.. a well known tory bod that will post propaganda at any instance...that's what this boils down too.. and poeple.. bite the bait

Oh I see now.

Any criticism of the school system reflects poorly in your opinion, because we've had a Labour government for the past twelve years?

I'm afraid my comments were more far reaching historically, than your little political bubble.

Besides, I was privately educated outside Hyndburn's boundaries, so I don't fit easily into one of your narrow little boxes.

Mancie · 17-02-2009, 03:07

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Tomorrow why don't you go and engage the young people of SW9, or from some of the estates behind Kings Cross, and debate with them how the education system has equipped them, both educationally and behaviourally, to face the world of today?

not what I had planned.. like I say get real..you refuse to verify that kids from Harrow have the same chance as kids from Deptford to get good education at an early age then .. ff you.. we are thinking different.. no **** to me me.. move on

garinda · 17-02-2009, 03:18

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Originally Posted by Mancie

not what I had planned.. like I say get real..you refuse to verify that kids from Harrow have the same chance as kids from Deptford to get good education at an early age then .. ff you.. we are thinking different.. no **** to me me.. move on

I'm not saying that all all.

Ninety odd years ago the kid's from a slum's education wouldn't have been that different from a boy's who'd attended Harrow, to use your example.

The same could not be said of today.

steeljack · 17-02-2009, 03:28

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Ninety odd years ago, because of the reforms in the education system, a formal education was an entitlement for all, regardless of background. Even though children weren't educated for as many years as today, they were more literate. Everything from their copperplate handwriting, to their encyclopedic knowledge of the world testifies to this.

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No arguement from me on this , places like the Mechanics Institute and the Labour sponsored WEA did great things in education which are missing today

Think one difference from 'yesterday' to 'today' is that in the past people saw an education as a step up , if only from 'loom-sweeper' to 'tackler' , there was no sense of entitlement .

Mancie · 17-02-2009, 03:35

The answer my freind is blowing in the wind.. a maybe forced sexual compulsion accorded at Eton Mr Cameron!

jaysay · 17-02-2009, 05:50

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The answer my freind is blowing in the wind.. a maybe forced sexual compulsion accorded at Eton Mr Cameron!

You know Mancie I bet your really a nice block at heart, but jess you don't half talk some crap at times

onlyme · 17-02-2009, 06:25

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Originally Posted by Mancie

not what I had planned.. like I say get real..you refuse to verify that kids from Harrow have the same chance as kids from Deptford to get good education at an early age then .. ff you.. we are thinking different.. no **** to me me.. move on

Find it hard to listen to someone that has to use **** in posts about education to be honest.

Guessing you dont originate from Harrow or Eton

Mancie · 17-02-2009, 06:53

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You know Mancie I bet your really a nice block at heart, but jess you don't half talk some crap at times

yep I'm so nice .. it makes me spew up,, but I have to keep an eye on you Tories.

Neil · 17-02-2009, 07:12

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There are certainly a few depraved inhabitants of Accrington.

Please don't start telling us your bedroom stories on here, save it for over 18's

jaysay · 17-02-2009, 09:44

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yep I'm so nice .. it makes me spew up,, but I have to keep an eye on you Tories.

If I were you I'd be looking a bit closer to home Mancie

garinda · 18-02-2009, 00:38

Watched a very interesting programme tonight on BBC4, about the role Sunday Schools played in educating children from poor backgrounds.

In the late eighteenth century teaching the working classes to read and write was seen as a radical ploy, and William Pitt tried to ban them by an act of parliament, fearing a revolution if the great unwashed had access to political pamphlets.

Many children used this step to further their education, including quite a few M.P.'s.

In 1950 50% of children went to Sunday School, and today it's less than 5%, and I suppose that includes those who are only there to secure a place at a church school.

People spoke about how they learned about others, and working for the greater good, rather than always themselves.

Although an atheist nowadays, coming from a long line of Methodists, and attending Sunday School myself until the age of sixteen, it certainly helped shape the person I am today.

BBC NEWS | Magazine | How Sunday school shaped Britain

cashman · 18-02-2009, 00:44

some interesting replies in yer link. most pro sunday school, meself i reckon theres a lot in that line of thought.

garinda · 18-02-2009, 00:49

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some interesting replies in yer link. most pro sunday school, meself i reckon theres a lot in that line of thought.

Besides getting some sort of education, later on the Sunday School outing was very often the only holiday a child might expect in a year.

Plus you got books for good attendance. Any sort of books, not necessarily religious ones.

I know someone who went to Sunday School at three different churches each week, to increase their reading material.

cashman · 18-02-2009, 01:22

i only went to one, but we got sweets as well.