Kids of today

buttonsmum · 23-01-2006, 20:16

We were walking through Oakhill park yesterday, when we came across a group of young teenagers (boys and girls) having a competition with each other to see who could climb the highest on the War Memorial.

They weren't even bothered that people walking in the park could see them, they obviously don't care about what people think or about the people who died in the war.

If tha'st what the kids of today are like, what's it going to be like in years to come?

thomas_045 · 23-01-2006, 20:22

I think your being very stereotypical. "kids of today". Im 16 (a teenager) Male. And wouldnt think of climbing any war memorial, or doing anything else un-respectable. Wake up and smell the coffeee love. Not ALL 'kids of today' are like that.

An adult was walking down my street, drunk out his face the other night. He was quick to shout abuse and threaten me. (For no apparent reason, yes). The adults of today! What are they like eh!

buttonsmum · 23-01-2006, 20:41

Well I suppose I asked for that.

But it does make you wonder if some teenagers and adults are like that today what does the future hold.

thomas_045 · 23-01-2006, 20:44

Yes. Lets not seperate 'kids' from 'adults'.

Lets seperate the socialable from the non-socialable.
Its the only way we will ever tackle these problems.
If you want to stop the bad kids. What a better way
to tackle it, with good kids helping you? eh?

Neil · 23-01-2006, 21:08

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Originally Posted by buttonsmum

f tha'st what the kids of today are like, what's it going to be like in years to come?

That's up to you Julie.

thomas_045 · 23-01-2006, 21:13

Hey Neil. Are you the Friends Of Rhyddings Park Chair Person?

Madhatter · 23-01-2006, 22:36

well, yes, there are some great kids out there that have got respect for property people and themselves.
To be honest, I think that most kids wouldn't dream of climbing a war memorial, some may sit on the bottom if its like steps, but most wouldn't go near it.
Adults behaviour like that is worse, becuase they're supposed to be setting an example to kids. What chance have they got if they've got parents like that. Who's fault is it, is it the bad kids or the pbad parents of bad kids.

WillowTheWhisp · 23-01-2006, 23:14

I would probably sit on the bottom of the war memorial myself. As for those climbing it and showing no respect, they probbly have no idea what it is and why it is there because no-one has ever told them. If they are young teenagers then maybe their parents don't even know the significance of it, thinking of people in their mid to late 30s do they all really understand what the war was about? Yes, I know there are many that do, but there are probably also many whose only references to war are the objections people have raised to more recent conflicts. I thnk the idea of "war hero" died out with Vietnam.

Acrylic-bob · 24-01-2006, 04:37

It sounds to me like quite a lot of people would benefit from a trip to the East Lancs' Regimental Museum at Preston, like the visit that was very kindly arranged for one young man by the police last year after he had been found scrawling graffiti on the base of the monument.

I do take the point and I fully agree that it is perhaps expecting too much to demand automatic respect without knowledge. Here perhaps is yet another argument for a museum of Accrington; a place where our past is clearly set out. A place where our young can learn how their forebears felt about being English and a guide to newcomers about what it means to be British.

However, arent our young supposed to learn about the first and second world wars in school? I seem to recall criticism in the national press, not too long ago, that too much emphasis was placed on these two events at the expense of other aspects of our national history.

Neil · 24-01-2006, 07:43

I am not sure Bob if the people in question would actually visit a museum.
I agree with the points made about not all young people are at fault. There are several youth groups in the area doing good things for the community. It is a very small percentage of young people that cause most of the problems. When you see a group of teenagers playing football and doing nothing bad most of us will not even notice. When we see a handfull of teenagers climbing on a War Memorial we all notice and instantly blame every teenager in the area.

jimmi5bellies · 24-01-2006, 13:46

90% of kids are good, its the bad ones that are rotten.
Especially when they think its fun to use your car as a goal post on the street ! Those small dints costs hundreads when you come to selling your car on. You tell the kids to clear off and they tell you to f*** Off ! ... then you get your windows put in !

MUMMIBOO · 24-01-2006, 15:55

I think alot of the time its those bad kids that turn into those bad adults and have probably never known any different in which case they have their own children and they dont know how to bring them up and then it turns into a vicious circle of never ending!!

I'm probably wrong but that it the conclusion i come to.

pendy · 24-01-2006, 18:21

It's true, bad kids do turn into bad adults and then perpetuate the cycle. It's sad but true that schools so often have to take the place of parents in teaching children right from wrong. However, then you get the Mum who comes down to the school threatening to beat up the teacher who told her dear little one that he/she was behaving antisocially. It's difficult to tell kids off when you see them doing something wrong, being told to f*** off is the mildest thing that can happen - some of them are quite likely to turn on you and beat the living daylights out of you.

thomas_045 · 24-01-2006, 18:23

I can only appologise on behalf of the good youths in Hyndburn.

It really does annoy me when the minority spoil it.

entwisi · 24-01-2006, 18:35

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Originally Posted by thomas_045

I think your being very stereotypical. "kids of today". Im 16 (a teenager) Male. And wouldnt think of climbing any war memorial, or doing anything else un-respectable. Wake up and smell the coffeee love. Not ALL 'kids of today' are like that.

An adult was walking down my street, drunk out his face the other night. He was quick to shout abuse and threaten me. (For no apparent reason, yes). The adults of today! What are they like eh!

Interesting that you choose to go off on one about a generalistaion here but are guilty of exactly the same sin in the bus driver thread. Perhaps you too should wake up and smell the coffee. I have been on the Internet since before you were quite literally still in your nappies. If there is one piece of advice I would give you it is that whilst you are new here yet you seem hellbent on upsetting people with one of your very first posts. I suggest that when dealing with real ADULT people you learn a bit about respect, consideration and the ability to allow people both the right to an opinion and the right to occasionally make generalistaions when trying to make a point. We are not school kids on here who turn any disagreement into an argument we prefer to debate them politely and rationally.