Labour Leadership Contest

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Jeremy Corbyn can talk all he likes.....he may be a horse of a different colour, but none of his words are worth much, none of his ideas about policies are worth anything at all because in opposition they cannot be put into action.......Cashy it is about what he says....because what he says is how he will be judged.
If what he says doesn't add up then his credibility is shot to pieces.

Yes, there is a lot of arrogance in politics. The fact that the politicians think the electorate haven't got the brains to bless themselves with.
For far too long the electorate has been treated shabbily.....the politicians seem to think they know what is good for us....without actually listening to what we want.

Thats my whole point, if his credibilty gets shot to pieces it will be or should be, by the people if they vote him in, not by other candidates saying the membership is stupid.

[jack preston]

Corbyn,Kinnock,Foot,all losers.

[cashman]

Really jack your the loser,Corbyn has never yet been the leader, though Milliband n Brown were.among a few more.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Eric

Seems like from what I read that Corbyn is the only one who can lead a party offering something really different from the tories .

UKIP was offering something different to the Tories.....they didn't get elected.
Jeremy Corbyn might be offering something different, but he isn't convincing in how it is going to be put into practice......
And different doesn't always equate to better.
That's it from me on this one.

[Wynonie Harris]

What Jeremy Corbyn is offering is the same old, same old peddled by the likes of Ken Livingstone, Derek Hatton and the rest back in the day...let the state take everything over and it'll all be OK, pro-IRA, protesting about Palestine but conveniently ignoring the oppression in a "socialist paradise" like North Korea.

The electorate rejected it back then and they'll reject it again if Corbyn becomes Labour leader. And that'll leave no effective opposition against Cameron and Osborn which will prove a disaster for this country.

[cashman]

Yeh mean like they rejected Blair when they saw through him? and every other leader of Labour since?He destroyed the Labour Party, but still it got him elected.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

What Jeremy Corbyn is offering is the same old, same old peddled by the likes of Ken Livingstone, Derek Hatton and the rest back in the day...let the state take everything over and it'll all be OK, pro-IRA, protesting about Palestine but conveniently ignoring the oppression in a "socialist paradise" like North Korea.

The electorate rejected it back then and they'll reject it again if Corbyn becomes Labour leader. And that'll leave no effective opposition against Cameron and Osborn which will prove a disaster for this country.

Yep....socialism is dead....it died when Michael Foot (who in my opinion was the best prime minister this country never had) was considered unelectable by the newspaper barons of the day because he always appeared unkempt. The sheep listened and voted Thatcher in...

Meanwhile Thatcherism is flourishing...

Covent Garden ex-council flat sells for £1.2m - BBC News

Wonder where the thatcherites expect the guy who empties the bins, fixes the burst pipes or drives the ambulance to live.

Meanwhile the tory-lite labour party is pretty much near the knuckle advocating electoral fraud, as three candidates are telling their supporters to vote anyone but Corbyn as a second choice.

As for his nationalisation and welfare ideas, thats what they are at this stage, thoughts and ideas, they are not policies, they are not set in stone, despite what the daily mail and its ilk are claiming.

I don't see anyone asking what Burnham or Coopers 'policies' are, I only see press reports damning Corbyns none existent 'policies'

[Wynonie Harris]

Quite right, mate but Corbyn ain't the answer. He's no chance of winning any elections for Labour.

What makes me laugh is that the sort of stuff Corbyn comes out with ("We're all human beings on one planet. We're all there to support our fellow humanity.") is exactly the sort of stuff that Accyexplorer comes out with on a regular basis. Apparently, this makes him a bleeding heart do-gooder, but it makes Corbyn a future PM. Go figure.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Quite right, mate but Corbyn ain't the answer. He's no chance of winning any elections for Labour.

What makes me laugh is that the sort of stuff Corbyn comes out with ("We're all human beings on one planet. We're all there to support our fellow humanity.") is exactly the sort of stuff that Accyexplorer comes out with on a regular basis. Apparently, this makes him a bleeding heart do-gooder, but it makes Corbyn a future PM. Go figure.

No he isn't the answer, but then again neither are the other three.

Lets be honest, the tories will get in next time too..Labour as a 'party of the people' have been royally screwed by Blair and Brown, Milliband was someone history has already forgotten. It needs someone to shake the cage, and if it has to be Corbyn then I'm all for it.

Hopefully, someone with a semblance of common sense socialism will challenge for the leadership after the next election...it's what most of us are hoping for

[Wynonie Harris]

What I'm hoping for is Alan Johnson - an eminently decent and sensible bloke with the common touch. I reckon he'd really capture the "man on the street" vote. Sadly, it isn't going to happen!

[JCB]

One of the refreshing aspects of Jeremy Corbyn's campaign has been his refusal to go in for personal attacks on his opponents .

He deals with issues , not personalities .

But on a personal note , there has been much criticism in recent years , not least on this forum , of the shameful abuse of expenses by parliamentarians . Throughout , and I am up for correction , but I sure I am right , Jeremy Corbyn has been the lowest claimer .

As for being a "left-wing socialist".....well I always thought socialists were by definition left-wing .

The Labour Party can stay as it is , a pink version of the Conservative Party , or it can return to its traditional values , socialist values , and give the electorate a choice . If they don't like it they won't vote for it .

It is interesting to say the least , and as for the knee-jerk reaction of some , no doubt fired up by what they encounter in the media , well I have seen it all before .

[Wynonie Harris]

I've seen it all before too, Colin. and I've seen the likes of Michael Foot fail miserably at the ballot box, because the people of this country don't want an extreme leftwing government. However I would expect you to support him as you hold a consistent set of full-blooded socialist values, so fair play to you.

Can't understand why others on here are so fervent in their support for him, though. There's recently been a thread on here about the immigrant crisis in Calais and the general consensus was keep 'em out/send 'em back/build bigger fences/send in the military etc. I'm not saying that's necessarily a good approach, but does anyone seriously believe that Corbyn would do that?

[cmonstanley]

depends who his deputy is. i am open minded about this. a tactical vote to try and see if the snp kid on left wing slogans stand up to jeremy corbyns ideals

[cashman]

To be honest i dont really give a damn, Labours burnt their bridges long ago with me,one or two of the lower M.P.s are ok, the rest just greedy overrated cheating gets. UKIP got slated wi the press before the election, but they still got more votes than expected, i think Corbyn will do the same.and i hope he does personally.

[Wynonie Harris]

Jeremy with his comrades...and how thoughtful of him to hold a minute's silence for the IRA members killed by our lads in 1987. Pass me the sick bucket. Jeremy Corbyn sips coffee with 'comrades' Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness in Parliament - Telegraph