Labour Leadership Contest

[Margaret Pilkington]

thank you Barrie......You can always learn something on here.
It is much more of their culture than Germany is.
It is difficult to know how many of the people making the journey to Europe are real refugees, and how many are economic migrants.
Yesterday morning Sky TV interviewed a young father who we were told was a refugee, but he had left Syria some five years ago.....so he was not a refugee either.

I sometimes wonder if the governments of the countries of Europe want to populate their countries with a huge influx of Muslims in order to fulfil the dream of a federated Europe.....to do away with nationalistic ideas and ideals. Muslims seem to see themselves as Muslims rather than any nationality.
It would be far easier to get this in place if the majority of the population was Muslim.
It will not be long before we are the minority...Muslims are outbreeding us.

I know that these views are not politically correct, and we have all been brainwashed into thinking that we are not allowed to,have these thoughts, but for me they won't easily be stifled

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

As for the other comments about beloved leaders idiocy and pinning the red rose on an ape, you could equally direct those comments to Tory voters.

Indubitably Steve, be they Tory, Lib-Dem, U kippers or in the main Labour you'll always find the sheeple who'll follow blindly because they won't consider anything other than what their fathers & their fathers fathers have followed & voted because "That's what we are my Lad!"

Other things I keep seeing when reading comments sections on various articles from numerous tabloids is an amazing level of divorce between a parties line & percentages on any given subject to that of the actual people posting & their views.

And another one that keeps cropping up is the "Coudenhove-Kalegri plan" (warning !!!! conspiracy theorists will be loving this un!") I've had a browse through & the long & short of it is summed up in this extract:-

The Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan becomes evident in 1925 when he writes in Practical Idealism (Praktischer Idealismus): “The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today’s races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals.”

» Report: EU Intentionally Collapsing European Countries With Illegals Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Now, make what you will of the veracity of this but it does seem to tick the boxes of What's happening in Europe right now. Added to that, the seeming determination of our leaders past present & (reading between the lines) future seem determined upon taking us ever deeper into the yawning cesspit of multiculti nothingness!

[Wynonie Harris]

Gordon Bennett, Dave, that's a conspiracy theory and a half! I think I'll just stay in Lima and support Stanley from afar!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

The Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan becomes evident in 1925 when he writes in Practical Idealism (Praktischer Idealismus): “The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today’s races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals.”

» Report: EU Intentionally Collapsing European Countries With Illegals Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Now, make what you will of the veracity of this but it does seem to tick the boxes of What's happening in Europe right now. Added to that, the seeming determination of our leaders past present & (reading between the lines) future seem determined upon taking us ever deeper into the yawning cesspit of multiculti nothingness!

Well, I knew nothing of the CK plan , but heck isn't that along the lines of what I put in a previous post of mine?(post 79)
I am not a bit in favour of conspiracy theories and felt a bit like a pale version of MargaretR (not casting aspersions Margaret) when I posted it.
I was thinking 'those out there will be marking my card NUTTER'.
Just goes to show doesn't it?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Gordon Bennett, Dave, that's a conspiracy theory and a half! I think I'll just stay in Lima and support Stanley from afar!

I think that is very sensible...staying in Lima would be my choice too.

[Barrie Yates]

How many more votes will the incumbent governing parties gain from creating all these new citizens in their countries - a further extension of the Blair philosophy?

[JCB]

Well Labour Party members and "supporters" have elected Jeremy Corbyn as the new leader of the Labour Party , and Tom Watson as the new deputy leader........should usher in an interesting time for those interested in politics .

[cashman]

The best result that could have been in my view 2 decent people elected fer once, Whilst i certainly do not agree wi some of Corbyns views, in the main they are much better than the other candidates, Trouble was some people were blinded, by the Pompous Barstewards that are Labour so called big guns, plus a baised media big time,Labour needs to change and these 2 lads are the best bet imho.

[JCB]

I am pleased that Labour Party members have gone against the grain and elected a senior citizen .

I am not keen on the cult of youth stuff .

[cashman]

Thing is though, those that have resigned were "Never" real socialists in my view, Corbyn was elected by the people who are members, it is their wish, NOT elected by MPs and select committees and the like, the fact they resigned is insulting to ordinary members, cos they are saying the members are stupid and i know better. these resigned should in my view be kicked out of the Labour party. and go join Cameron as they are nearer to him, he dont give a stuff about ordinary people either.

[accyman]

i suppose the hardest choice a labour MP has at the moment is whos arse they prefer to kiss

im sure those that puckered up to milliband still have a nasty taste in their mouths and nothing to show for it

Labour may remain strong around here but they are dead in the water for a long time nationally thanks to milliband and the muppets that chose him as leader

i do laugh when i hear people say the UKIP voters caused a tory government

nope a weak leader and weak MPs cost labour the election even the lib dems couldnt bear to do a coalition with them so that shows how bad things are with labour when a lib dem would choose to go with tory over labour

dont like tory but labour are a complete farce and have been for a long time

think ime wrong

let me assure you that in the town of XXXX %95 of people agree

[cashman]

Originally Posted by accyman

i suppose the hardest choice a labour MP has at the moment is whos arse they prefer to kiss

im sure those that puckered up to milliband still have a nasty taste in their mouths and nothing to show for it

Labour may remain strong around here but they are dead in the water for a long time nationally thanks to milliband and the muppets that chose him as leader

Have to disagree mate Milliband had no chance wi the damage Blair did to socialism.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by cashman

Have to disagree mate Milliband had no chance wi the damage Blair did to socialism.

He was weak and he looked weak

in days when image is a vital part of a successful election campaign he was constantly made to look like a clumsy bafoon and only got around to tackling the problem a matter of weeks before the last election

all that time as a leader and he will be remembered as the guy who couldnt even manage to eat a bacon butty without looking like it was gong to kill him

blair blew our money and dragged us into an illegal war

many many reasons why labour are screwed and no one trusts them

im beginning to sound like dear old jaysay but without the tory love lol

[cashman]

Not disputing he wasn't great by any stretch, but no-one could have improved much on Blairs destruction imho. dont forget the media are tory.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by cashman

Not disputing he wasn't great by any stretch, but no-one could have improved much on Blairs destruction imho. dont forget the media are tory.

aye but they were labour for along time

well hang on

the media owned both major parties or should i say murdoch did so he pretty much decided who won and who didnt