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[jaysay]

Defence blunder forces Gordon Brown to beat retreat - Times Online
Naughty Naughty Gordon Lying to the Iraq War Inquiry

[Mancie]

well at least you got one thing going for you Jaysay.. no Tories can lie at this Inquiry.. because no Tories were involved in the war

[LYNX1]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Defence blunder forces Gordon Brown to beat retreat - Times Online
Naughty Naughty Gordon Lying to the Iraq War Inquiry

Do you expect anything else jaysay...........he is after all a politician, you should know by now, when they open they're mouths they only spew out lies..... no matter which party they belong to

[cashman]

Originally Posted by LYNX1

Do you expect anything else jaysay...........he is after all a politician, you should know by now, when they open they're mouths they only spew out lies..... no matter which party they belong to

nah lynx the tories don't........least not in jaysays world.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by LYNX1

Do you expect anything else jaysay...........he is after all a politician, you should know by now, when they open they're mouths they only spew out lies..... no matter which party they belong to

You're right.

For every Ying there's a Yang.

http://www.newstatesman.com/2010/03/...l-hague-leader

Lord Ashcroft and William Hague to snub Commons inquiry into peerage - Times Online

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Mancie

well at least you got one thing going for you Jaysay.. no Tories can lie at this Inquiry.. because no Tories were involved in the war

Might have been better if Brown wasn't either seeing so many of our lads and lasses are being killed

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

You're right.

For every Ying there's a Yang.

New Statesman - Hague was aware of Ashcroft tax deal, leaked papers suggest

Lord Ashcroft and William Hague to snub Commons inquiry into peerage - Times Online

So your putting that on a par with our troops being sold short on the front line Quack Quack

[DaveinGermany]

Examples can be pulled from various sources regarding various Politicians & their parties blatantly lying about one thing or another. This is bad enough in a peace time setting, whether it be jobs, commerce the economy, they all have a knack of avoiding or twisting the truth & the facts to suit their purposes.

But when it has a direct effect on our service personnel, who've been sent off at the behest of the Government to "Defend our liberty". there is no way these lies can be tolerated as it bears a direct effect on the troops morale, safety & well being. They're risking their lives daily & as such should be given everything they need, not half the story !

These Men & Women are doing what is asked of them whether they agree with it or not, they at least are being true & honest to their creed, unlike the cowards who sent them !

[Less]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Examples can be pulled from various sources regarding various Politicians & their parties blatantly lying about one thing or another. This is bad enough in a peace time setting, whether it be jobs, commerce the economy, they all have a knack of avoiding or twisting the truth & the facts to suit their purposes.

But when it has a direct effect on our service personnel, who've been sent off at the behest of the Government to "Defend our liberty". there is no way these lies can be tolerated as it bears a direct effect on the troops morale, safety & well being. They're risking their lives daily & as such should be given everything they need, not half the story !

These Men & Women are doing what is asked of them whether they agree with it or not, they at least are being true & honest to their creed, unlike the cowards who sent them !

Do you know Dave? I'd agree with all of the above, except, we still have lads and lasses volunteering to join the forces.

Is this because they have some sort of patriotic feeling? No other job available? Like the idea of adventure & what the Hell? We only live once!

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Less

Do you know Dave? I'd agree with all of the above, except, we still have lads and lasses volunteering to join the forces.

Is this because they have some sort of patriotic feeling? No other job available? Like the idea of adventure & what the Hell? We only live once!

I wanted to learn about electronics - in the early '60s it was a Catch 22 situation at Phillips and Mullards, so I joined the RAF, learnt my electronics but also found that I enjoyed the life, even the Brush Fire situations - enjoyed it so much that I took the Queen's Shilling 3 times. Yes, our equipment was crap even in those days - 1964 and we had Enfield Rifles and Sten Guns when they were supposed to have been replaced. No jungle boots for us unless we bought them - strange that my lad also had to buy gear, before he went to the Falklands.
So both parties are just as bad in providing for the troops and I don't suppose it will ever change.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Less

Do you know Dave? I'd agree with all of the above, except, we still have lads and lasses volunteering to join the forces.

Is this because they have some sort of patriotic feeling? No other job available? Like the idea of adventure & what the Hell? We only live once!

I think it's a bit of everything Less, I still work with the Military & you talk with the "Kids", some because it seems like an adventure, others because they feel the have no other options & yes there are still one or two Patriotic souls who want to defend the British way of life, for what that's worth nowadays.

The worst thing about it all though is I feel like their Dad/Uncle, I would never tell them to stay away from the Forces I would actively encourage some of these kids to give it a go. I do think it will make them better people, but also sadly in these present times possibly crippled, maimed or just a memory of a loved one taken far to early from life.

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Defence blunder forces Gordon Brown to beat retreat - Times Online
Naughty Naughty Gordon Lying to the Iraq War Inquiry

What else could we expect? After all, unelected to the position, he inherited the mantle from the biggest liar in political history - Blair. Need I say more.