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22-08-2009, 19:50
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by katex
So, what do you do about the idiots next door that own their own property ? Not all the 'scumbags' as have been labelled are in rented property. It is just a social problem.
Problem with some landlords is that they will not always act on the enforcements, to improve their property, that are in place, and are quite happy to sit back and wait for a CPO (compulsory purchase order) from the council ... which, as ours, do not always have the money to implement.
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A bit more tricky I admit.
-Noise Nusiance - new tougher legislation.
-Enforcement eventually leading to land charges to ultimately repossession.
-Enforcement, we use very little. You will be staggered what laws exist against nuisance neighbours.
-Tough Policing
-Local Laws - Ban on street drinking
-Community Contracts (on new developments) like in blocks of apartments.
and of course - change the laws nationally.
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22-08-2009, 19:52
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Re: Landlords
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I don't have a solution for it and I doubt any councillors in the area do either, otherwise I'd have thought they'd have been sorting out the problem.
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That's because the issues and the solutions, the people out there campaigning for change; the people who hold power who do not want change, all these are passing you by leaving unable to decide clearly what is best.
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22-08-2009, 19:54
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by g jones
A bit more tricky I admit.
-Noise Nusiance - new tougher legislation.
-Enforcement eventually leading to land charges to ultimately repossession.
-Enforcement, we use very little. You will be staggered what laws exist against nuisance neighbours.
-Tough Policing
-Local Laws - Ban on street drinking
-Community Contracts (on new developments) like in blocks of apartments.
and of course - change the laws nationally.
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The majority of that isn't necessary. You don't change the people by changing the law. Making it stricter only leads to disproportionate convictions as well and it costs money.
Strengthening community spirit is what is needed. I'd like to see more allotments and family schemes. Community centres like when I was a wee lass. Social inclusion. Not fragmentation by separating good from bad. Everyone has good in them if they have the opportunity to feel a responsible member of something.
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22-08-2009, 20:17
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#154
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by g jones
In Peel & Barnfield I have a Home Front Scheme open to Landlords (all houses actually) to improve the frontages of their properties.
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Where can I find more info on this Graham?
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22-08-2009, 20:34
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Re: Landlords
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Qualification for 50% Council Tax discount by Landlords is based on 6 months empty. So how will that force up rents when they are empty??
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Err... You're kidding right?
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22-08-2009, 20:42
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Re: Landlords
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Err... You're kidding right?
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Why not it is no different from those with holiday homes who have reduced rates for the afore mentioned home.
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22-08-2009, 20:44
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Why not it is no different from those with holiday homes who have reduced rates for the afore mentioned home.
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I think what Andrew is saying is that if the relief on council tax is taken from the empty properties the landlords will increase rent on tenanted properties to recoup the lost money.
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22-08-2009, 20:50
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE
I think what Andrew is saying is that if the relief on council tax is taken from the empty properties the landlords will increase rent on tenanted properties to recoup the lost money.
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Is that legal though? Keep forgetting the rules up here are different. If they increase it to recoup lost revenue then there is a chance that others might quit these houses. Seems like a catch 22.
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22-08-2009, 20:54
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Re: Landlords
Rent prices are regulated. You can't charge excessive rent to dodge tax.
The question is how many landlords are caught doing it?
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22-08-2009, 20:56
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by g jones
In Peel & Barnfield I have a Home Front Scheme open to Landlords (all houses actually) to improve the frontages of their properties.
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I've searched this but it appears this scheme only happens in areas with a large asian population, I knew it sounded too good to be true.
You can't apply for this scheme the Council will contact you directly and invite you to apply
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22-08-2009, 20:57
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by Bagpuss
I've searched this but it appears this scheme only happens in areas with a large asian population, I knew it sounded too good to be true.
You can't apply for this scheme the Council will contact you directly and invite you to apply
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It happens in Oswaldtwistle. No 'large asian population' there. It is granted on the basis of household income isn't it?
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22-08-2009, 21:00
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by blazey
It happens in Oswaldtwistle. No 'large asian population' there. It is granted on the basis of household income isn't it?
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Just what I read on HBC website, doesn't mention any work in Ossy.
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22-08-2009, 21:01
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
Is that legal though? Keep forgetting the rules up here are different. If they increase it to recoup lost revenue then there is a chance that others might quit these houses. Seems like a catch 22.
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I don't know whether it is legal but you can bet it would be tried. As has been said a few times in this thread a lot of landlords don't maintain the properties, they are just left in disrepair. Surely this practice should be dealt with along with problem tenants.
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22-08-2009, 21:15
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE
I don't know whether it is legal but you can bet it would be tried. As has been said a few times in this thread a lot of landlords don't maintain the properties, they are just left in disrepair. Surely this practice should be dealt with along with problem tenants.
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Disrepair is already regulated by the law as well, so it'd perhaps be better that either this was made even tighter or it was actually enforced better.
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22-08-2009, 21:35
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Re: Landlords
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Originally Posted by blazey
I can answer this.
Because landlords aren't all the same, and sometimes in order to get thinks to an equal standard you need to treat people differently.
The EU taught me that
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I wouldnt brag about learning somthing from the EU lol
isnt it them lot that demanded bannas not be aloowed to be sold if too curved or somthing ?
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