Last Nights Council Meeting

[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Same old same old, nothing useful to contribute , sniping against other members, get back to the bar Roy! Enjoy your time in the sun.

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[Royboy39]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Same old same old, nothing useful to contribute , sniping against other members, get back to the bar Roy! Enjoy your time in the sun.

Originally Posted by g jones

It's same old same old. Drag Labour Councillors down and it will all be much of muchness then. Then they'll win local votes simply because Gordon is unpopular.

Second post....I think you may be right about Gordon.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

I am glad to hear that. It is quite a while since I heard different from a couple of people so things must be good now. Seeing as a few have said everything is happy in the camp I think I can put the other rumours to bed.

They must kiss and make up very quickly Neil, its not that long since one of them ran out of a meeting crying, questioning the leaders legitimacy

[Neil]

Originally Posted by jaysay

They must kiss and make up very quickly Neil, its not that long since one of them ran out of a meeting crying, questioning the leaders legitimacy

If that is the case lets hope they have put it behind them. All we need now is for all Councillors from all parties to work together for the improvement of Hyndburn. I think we will be waiting a long time though.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by jaysay

They must kiss and make up very quickly Neil, its not that long since one of them ran out of a meeting crying, questioning the leaders legitimacy

How do you come by this information?
Is the source reliable, or is it someone just mischief making and stirring, hoping to create unrest.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

How do you come by this information?
Is the source reliable, or is it someone just mischief making and stirring, hoping to create unrest.

People who were actually there at the time I was told the same story by three different people, none of which were PB

[Neil]

Call me sad or weird or something but I actually like playing the "What's Peter up to now" game. I am currently watching a couple of things unfold to see if I guessed correctly.

I think this quote could well have been plagiarised from one of PB's secret cabinet meetings

Blackadder: Baldrick, I have a very, very, very cunning plan.
Baldrick: Is it as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning?
Blackadder: Yes it is.
Baldrick: Hmm... that's cunning.

Not sure which of the Tory Councillors was playing the part of Baldrick though - suggestions are welcome

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Neil

Call me sad or weird or something but I actually like playing the "What's Peter up to now" game. I am currently watching a couple of things unfold to see if I guessed correctly.

I think this quote could well have been plagiarised from one of PB's secret cabinet meetings



Not sure which of the Tory Councillors was playing the part of Baldrick though - suggestions are welcome

As for them cunning, I think an mouldly old sack of turnips would possess more.

Now if we were discussing conning, that's a different matter.......

[g jones]

Originally Posted by jaysay

They must kiss and make up very quickly Neil, its not that long since one of them ran out of a meeting crying, questioning the leaders legitimacy

That's just complete fabrication. You want to stick to writing about Wardrobe Monsters.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Neil

If that is the case lets hope they have put it behind them. All we need now is for all Councillors from all parties to work together for the improvement of Hyndburn. I think we will be waiting a long time though.

Having read most of this thread (oops, accidental rhyme) with interest and not a little amusement, I agree with you ... England will win the World Cup before there is harmony, or at least a willingness to co-operate, in Hyndburn Council. Problem is, as I see it from outside, is party politics at the local level .... I can't for the life of me see what advantages there are in a system which stumbles on the pettiness of party at the local level. It has nothing to do with democracy; you don't need party politics to run a democratic local council; you need people commited to improve Hyndburn, and a group of independents could probably do a much better job.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Eric

Having read most of this thread (oops, accidental rhyme) with interest and not a little amusement, I agree with you ... England will win the World Cup before there is harmony, or at least a willingness to co-operate, in Hyndburn Council. Problem is, as I see it from outside, is party politics at the local level .... I can't for the life of me see what advantages there are in a system which stumbles on the pettiness of party at the local level. It has nothing to do with democracy; you don't need party politics to run a democratic local council; you need people commited to improve Hyndburn, and a group of independents could probably do a much better job.

Labour Councillors try their best and are honest. Hyndburn Conservatives realise there are a lot Erics out there easily taken in. So Hynd.Tories tell as big a lie as possible because they know the Erics of this world make their judgements either somewhere in the middle, or somewhere in the middle but high up.

And of course progress is stifled not by Labour Councillors but by the Erics. Guilty of not looking at the arguments, asking intelligent questions, but getting tied up in the personalities. In the end it is the Eric's that give a mandate to rogue Councillors to carry on by not holding them to account.

I am on here to be scrutinised. Questioned. Told I am wrong. However you seem to have forgot Eric this process is about a better Hyndburn and not about trying to look better than people who are actually giving a lot and trying.

Sorry about expressing my opinion mate but it had to be said. Moralising fence sitters annoy me because there is nothing genuine about that line of thinking.

For the record, we work together a lot but the papers won't print that because the public want conflict. Any criticism is overplayed in the press ditto. I am not out for Party politics, pretty much 100% of what I do in Peel and 90% in Council is non political. If you bothered to meet me or contact me you would work that out in minutes.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by g jones

Labour Councillors try their best and are honest. Hyndburn Conservatives realise there are a lot Erics out there easily taken in. So Hynd.Tories tell as big a lie as possible because they know the Erics of this world make their judgements either somewhere in the middle, or somewhere in the middle but high up.

And of course progress is stifled not by Labour Councillors but by the Erics. Guilty of not looking at the arguments, asking intelligent questions, but getting tied up in the personalities. In the end it is the Eric's that give a mandate to rogue Councillors to carry on by not holding them to account.

I am on here to be scrutinised. Questioned. Told I am wrong. However you seem to have forgot Eric this process is about a better Hyndburn and not about trying to look better than people who are actually giving a lot and trying.

Sorry about expressing my opinion mate but it had to be said. Moralising fence sitters annoy me because there is nothing genuine about that line of thinking.

For the record, we work together a lot but the papers won't print that because the public want conflict. Any criticism is overplayed in the press ditto. I am not out for Party politics, pretty much 100% of what I do in Peel and 90% in Council is non political. If you bothered to meet me or contact me you would work that out in minutes.

Q. E. D. And I've voted labor all my life (it's New Democratic Party here, same thing, only a little more to the left.), and never sat on any fences about it. But, locally, where my concerns are about infrastructure maintainance, snowplowing, policing, parking, development ... I don't think that "party" should have anything to do with it. All it adds is more petulant bickering.