Leader of The Labour Party - Page 5

accysimon · 20-09-2010, 19:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay

As I've said before Heating allowances should be means tested, or do you agree with the likes of Margaret Thatcher getting £250 every year, I certainly don't

I actually agree with you for once.

JCB · 20-09-2010, 19:18

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Solicialism is not yet dead.. some say a week is a long time in politics.. and five years is even longer.. but comon sense will always be about.
No real socialist can win any General Election ... the Tories and their press machine have put paid to any illusion of that ..the media claim to be neutral.. same as some bods on here... but they spend all thier time defending a slash burn Government who are hell bent on the destruction of everything this country has built up over the last 50yrs.. they are a disgrace!

They are not hell bent on the destruction of Trident .

And it was a Labour government that made Britain a nuclear power .

jaysay · 21-09-2010, 09:19

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Originally Posted by accysimon

I actually agree with you for once.

Some how I thought you would Simon

accysimon · 21-09-2010, 17:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Some how I thought you would Simon

I don't believe Thatcher should get anything for the way she screwed the country up !!!

jaysay · 21-09-2010, 17:50

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Originally Posted by accysimon

I don't believe Thatcher should get anything for the way she screwed the country up !!!

No doubt you'll feel even more strongly about Blair and Brown then

JCB · 21-09-2010, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Solicialism is not yet dead.. some say a week is a long time in politics.. and five years is even longer.. but comon sense will always be about.
No real socialist can win any General Election ... the Tories and their press machine have put paid to any illusion of that ..the media claim to be neutral.. same as some bods on here... but they spend all thier time defending a slash burn Government who are hell bent on the destruction of everything this country has built up over the last 50yrs.. they are a disgrace!

You disagree when I say that Socialism is dead .

Yet you say that no real socialist can win any General Election .

Are we not saying the same thing in different ways ?

JCB · 21-09-2010, 18:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay

As I've said before Heating allowances should be means tested, or do you agree with the likes of Margaret Thatcher getting £250 every year, I certainly don't

I agree with you , Jaysay , that heating allowances should be means tested . That is as long as the means testing does not prevent one single person who needs the allowance being left out .

jaysay · 21-09-2010, 18:15

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Originally Posted by JCB

I agree with you , Jaysay , that heating allowances should be means tested . That is as long as the means testing does not prevent one single person who needs the allowance being left out .

I have exactly the same feelings about child benefit as well JCB, why should a home with £75000 plus coming each year receive an sort of government hand outs

JCB · 21-09-2010, 18:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I have exactly the same feelings about child benefit as well JCB, why should a home with £75000 plus coming each year receive an sort of government hand outs

What you say is fair and makes sense .

My only concern is that any in need should not miss out .

There would have to be a rigorous regime set in place to ensure that those in need get what they are entitled to . But where there's a will there's a way .

accysimon · 22-09-2010, 20:48

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Originally Posted by jaysay

No doubt you'll feel even more strongly about Blair and Brown then

Why, what did they do wrong other than support the country, bail out our money in the banks, improve schools and hospitals...Didn't Mervyn King admit it was the bankers that have caused this financial crisis?

Oh, and maybe if many Tory supporters with offshore bank accounts paid the tax they should, we could resoup some money.

Mancie · 22-09-2010, 21:25

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Originally Posted by JCB

You disagree when I say that Socialism is dead .

Yet you say that no real socialist can win any General Election .

Are we not saying the same thing in different ways ?

Maybe we are saying the same...I'd say the real socialism that created the NHS, national pensions, child benifit has gone when talking about winning a General election.. mainly because the tories have always opposed them ..and the right have total control of the media.... but I don't think the idea of socialism is dead.

Barrie Yates · 22-09-2010, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Me too, IMHO she is the only one who can truly continue the legacy of Tony and Gordon and also introduce a new dimension.

Hey Wyn, if we both voted for her how come she has only 1 vote. Which of our votes have been declared invalid???????????

cashman · 22-09-2010, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Hey Wyn, if we both voted for her how come she has only 1 vote. Which of our votes have been declared invalid???????????

no good askin wyn mate, hes "All The Way To Memphis"

cashman · 22-09-2010, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Maybe we are saying the same...I'd say the real socialism that created the NHS, national pensions, child benifit has gone when talking about winning a General election.. mainly because the tories have always opposed them ..and the right have total control of the media.... but I don't think the idea of socialism is dead.

That Dementia ridden owd bitch put the final nail in socialism, when she created the "Me Me Me" society.

Mancie · 22-09-2010, 22:25

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Originally Posted by cashman

no good askin wyn mate, hes "All The Way To Memphis"

some guys have all the luck!