Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?

[annesingleton]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Both those drugs are a product of the drugs laws!

1) Skunk was started by drugs dealers as a way of getting round the fact that it's easier to grow cannabis indoors using powerful lights which causes it to grow faster and be much stronger than normal. This is because naturally grown cannabis from India, Pakistan was not getting into the country and cutting off their supply. Hence they came up with the idea of growing it indoors in this way and that is what is Skunk. Skunk can be grown in any indoor space in the UK with the right equipment. It is well known that it makes people "psychotic" and does not have the relaxing effect of naturally grown cannabis. Which is why all these "Shameless" style little criminals like it.

2) Again Mephedrone was also a substitute for ecstasy which was increasingly harder to get.

I am talking from my own professional experience I'm not interested in the ins and outs of where stuff comes from but only the effects of it on the young people I work with and their families who I encounter on a day to day basis. I do not think you have an argument to answer here. You might know some facts but do you really know any realities? If not shut up! You are actually disturbing me by your inability to understand the real picture.

[cashman]

Don't let him disturb yeh anne, its a system fault, they closed too many nut houses.

[annesingleton]

Originally Posted by cashman

Don't let him disturb yeh anne, its a system fault, they closed too many nut houses.

Thank you Cash it's just the fact that this person is trying to justify himself by facts that he's not really sure of whilst not seeing the bigger picture which I see on a daily basis - actually shame on him!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

OK I said I wasn't going to use this forum but I am cleaning out my e-mail account and everytime someone posts I read it and...well fact is the Internet is a drug just like many other things! Anyone going to dispute what I just wrote - yep the Internet is a drug!

There are conflicting reports about the effects of various drugs, for example last year Harvard Medical School published results of research into ecstasy and the conclusion was quote...

"A new study carried out by a team at Harvard Medical School and published in the journal Addiction last week, found no evidence that ecstasy causes brain damage. This is one of the largest ever studies into the effects of the drug ecstasy. The scientists responsible for the research concluded that many previous studies had made over-arching conclusions from insufficient data, and that the drug’s dangers have been greatly exaggerated. In contrast to many prior studies, ecstasy users in the new study showed no signs of cognitive impairment attributable to drug use: ecstasy use did not decrease mental ability."
Ecstasy Does Not Wreck the Mind

So this is new information from a highly credible source that contradicts claims from earlier sources, in which the way studies were conducted were biased.

So what I am asking is that honest facts be taken on board - not "knee jerk reactionism!"

Its simple really disable the e mail on the site then you can fade away into the oblivion of pot and ecstasy without any recourse what so ever

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by annesingleton

I am talking from my own professional experience I'm not interested in the ins and outs of where stuff comes from but only the effects of it on the young people I work with and their families who I encounter on a day to day basis. I do not think you have an argument to answer here. You might know some facts but do you really know any realities? If not shut up! You are actually disturbing me by your inability to understand the real picture.

I think your talking rot! I can't even be bothered answering you! You can't have a decent debate just attack me personally which is fact, like Garinda. I know a lot more about it Anne Singleton as I've seen it ,I survived it! The issue is there are a lot of stupid families out there. Again it's the same argument - do we ban cars because 1% of drivers knock children over and kill them!

Maybe you ought to look at television and it's negative impact on the minds of kids i.e. TV programs such as "Shameless" which for the last 10 years have been glamorising criminality and drug dealing and so on also all these music video's with the likes of Gangster Rap and other "cool" acts glamorising criminal behaviour which a lot of these youth gangs listen to!

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by cashman

Don't let him disturb yeh anne, its a system fault, they closed too many nut houses.

I don't think I've ever heard you say one intelligent thing Cashman - it's always sniping and cheap shots - nothing of substance!

[garinda]

Do recreational drugs leave all those who've used them, and who encourage others to take them, so paranoid, and angry?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

I don't think I've ever heard you say one intelligent thing Cashman - it's always sniping and cheap shots - nothing of substance!

That's a bit rich coming from you

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by garinda

Do recreational drugs leave all those who've used them, and who encourage others to take them, so paranoid, and angry?

You really get on my nerves mate! The fact is you always make stupid comments after a lot of my posts and you have done for a long time you do it on purpose i know that! That is fact not paranoia. Your a wind up merchant...End of!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

You really get on my nerves mate! The fact is you always make stupid comments after a lot of my posts and you have done for a long time you do it on purpose i know that! That is fact not paranoia. Your a wind up merchant...End of!

Have you always struggled coping with things?

Was that why you first took drugs?

To artificially mask dealing with reality?

It's always wiser to face your problems, rather than to run and hide from them.

Recreational drugs only alter real life temporarily.

They aren't a long-term solution to people's inadequacies.

Just say no.

Seek real help.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

I don't think I've ever heard you say one intelligent thing Cashman - it's always sniping and cheap shots - nothing of substance!

Jeez yeh must have E.S.P. or summat to read that!!! considering the fact yeh have left the forum.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Have you always struggled coping with things?

Was that why you first took drugs?

To artificially mask dealing with reality?

It's always wiser to face your problems, rather than to run and hide from them.

Recreational drugs only alter real life temporarily.

They aren't a long-term solution to people's inadequacies.

Just say no.

Seek real help.

What I want to know Rindi is how long have you been mates with our drugy sympathiser

[cashman]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

I don't think I've ever heard you say one intelligent thing Cashman - it's always sniping and cheap shots - nothing of substance!

Many on this forum know me n can verify,if i say or say i will do anything.......I do, yet you say yeh will do things n do the opposite, Not a great deal of substance there?

[Less]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

I don't think I've ever heard you say one intelligent thing Cashman - it's always sniping and cheap shots - nothing of substance!

Would that be a legal or illegal substance?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

What I want to know Rindi is how long have you been mates with our drugy sympathiser

I was always brought up to believe you should try and help those less fortunate than yourself.

Give, give, give.

Condemn foolish ways, not the fool.