Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by annesingleton

This thread is going round in circles! There are lots of previous answers to this question!

Try and be a little more understanding.

Some members have difficulties.

Short-term memory loss being one of their minor problems.

[annesingleton]

I think kestrelx is losing the argument and should stop now.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by annesingleton

I think kestrelx is losing the argument and should stop now.

See yer wrong again, Its the plot hes lost.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by annesingleton

I think kestrelx is losing the argument and should stop now.

I think he's addicted to the pain, suffering, and public humilation, that this thread affords him.

He should try and muster a little self-discipline.

Just say No.

[Margaret Pilkington]

We know that Cannabis has some powerful qualities that mean it is of use to sufferers of the pain caused by MS and arthritis....that is why the drug Sativex(there are otherdrug company names too) was brought out - to help these people.
It does not alter the fact that it is illegal to use it unless it has been prescibed for such use.
No-one has died from using Cannabis(or that is what you tell us)...but plenty have gone on to use other illegal substance and have died from their use.....and there are those who haven't died from cannabis use, but sometimes wish they had(when in the grip of mental illness).

Illegal drugs are lumped together because they are illegal, not because they are all the same in effects.

As Anne has said this debate has gone around in circles, you are not going to be convinced that your argument is flawed....and there are many of us who are not convinced that your (or anyone else's ) argument for legalisation is anything, other than justification for your own use in the future.
My input ends here.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

Cut the lad some slack, he is easily confused these days, dribble is what drips off his chin as he attempts to post his drivel.

One thought I've been having lately is:-

If kestrelx has a downer about people using alcohol, why is his user name also the name of probably the worst lager in the world?

No probably about it Less, I once tried it too

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by annesingleton

I think kestrelx is losing the argument and should stop now.

Ann kestrelx never had a winnable argument in the first place, only in his own mind

[Neil]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

The issue is here what I said in the first place is that 500 people die from Paracetomol and only 30 from Exstasy per annum in the UK - that said a lot of it is not actually Exstasy so again the figures are lower!

I think that is a rubbish argument.
How many of those who died from paracetamol overdoses used them to commit suicide?

I doubt anyone chooses ecstasy as the drug of choice for suicide.

[Boeing Guy]

Well said Neil, however there is one thing bothering me, where did Kestralex get his numbers from?
I had a search, I could not find any real credible figgures for ecstacy deaths.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Neil

I think that is a rubbish argument.
How many of those who died from paracetamol overdoses used them to commit suicide?

I doubt anyone chooses ecstasy as the drug of choice for suicide.

Yes, but like buying paracetamol tablets, most 'good' dealers would limit the number of ecstasy pills you could purchase to sixteen.

Surely?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Yes, but like buying paracetamol tablets, most 'good' dealers would limit the number of ecstasy pills you could purchase to sixteen.

Surely?

Ya Rindi and that idea of limiting the paracetamol which can be bought is a nonsense, the only thing it did was to increase the price of them, I use paracetamol every day as part of pain management and I don't get them on prescription either, it costs me £2 for 64 tabs, before the legislation it was 200 for £1-30p

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya Rindi and that idea of limiting the paracetamol which can be bought is a nonsense, the only thing it did was to increase the price of them, I use paracetamol every day as part of pain management and I don't get them on prescription either, it costs me £2 for 64 tabs, before the legislation it was 200 for £1-30p

I am surprised that you don't get pain relief on free prescription (over 60 as you are).

Several years ago I was on 8 distalgesics a day.(free)
They removed them from the prescribed list after they were used by Dr Kelly to suicide (allegedly).

They were replaced by a codiene/paracetemol combination (free)

When I got addicted to codiene and told doc I wanted paracetemol only he supplied it free without question.

I eventually stopped using that too.
Whatever I was on, I got a months supply at a time to accommodate the max daily dose.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by garinda

Based on all evidence unearthed to date, unless you count the occasional use of an over-the counter homeopathic remedy, Lewis Carroll was not a drug user.

You a recreational drug user?

Can we look forward to your posts exhibiting great flights of imagination, touched with genius?

From about 1800 to 1985 a highly powerful hallucinogenic -datura strammonium - was used in Asthma treatment medication. In special cigarettes and also as a form of tea in which the fumes were inhaled, but if taken as tea and the liquid drank would cause serious mind warping effects - I wonder if Lewis Carroll used this stuff as it was commonly available and would give serious hallucinations. In those days was viewed as a mere homeopathic remedy!!!
Hardluck Asthma: 1800-1985: Asthma Cigarettes

As far as me losing the argument is concerned; all I hear from you lot is personal attacks and not a jott of decent evidence apart from "knee jerk" reactions!

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

From about 1800 to 1985 a highly powerful hallucinogenic -datura strammonium - was used in Asthma treatment medication. In special cigarettes and also as a form of tea in which the fumes were inhaled, but if taken as tea and the liquid drank would cause serious mind warping effects - I wonder if Lewis Carroll used this stuff as it was commonly available and would give serious hallucinations. In those days was viewed as a mere homeopathic remedy!!! :

Good job they made it legal then.
They didn't? Come on, kestrelx, start a campaign, I'm sure you'll get lots of backers.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

From about 1800 to 1985 a highly powerful hallucinogenic -datura strammonium - was used in Asthma treatment medication. In special cigarettes and also as a form of tea in which the fumes were inhaled, but if taken as tea and the liquid drank would cause serious mind warping effects - I wonder if Lewis Carroll used this stuff as it was commonly available and would give serious hallucinations. In those days was viewed as a mere homeopathic remedy!!!
Hardluck Asthma: 1800-1985: Asthma Cigarettes

As far as me losing the argument is concerned; all I hear from you lot is personal attacks and not a jott of decent evidence apart from "knee jerk" reactions!

As you've stated on here that you took heroin recreationally, should that be made legal?

As for personal attacks.

Since no one know's you from Adam, and the only information that's known about you, are things you've chosen to have made public, any 'attacks' are carried out with the rod you've made for your own spineless back.