Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

"you really are a pratt!" I think you should read the rules about personal insults! It seems the moderators here are turning a blind eye!

The issue is that people with Multiple Sclerosis find "illegal cannabis" the most effective pain killer and are being treat like criminals as they can't get it on the NHS so they have to buy illegal drugs OK!



Sorry about your illness man!

calling you a prat is not an insult its a fact

[annesingleton]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

"you really are a pratt!" I think you should read the rules about personal insults! It seems the moderators here are turning a blind eye!

I think you need to pay attention to some of the very offensive personal remarks and insults you have made towards others on this thread and practice what you preach!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

The issue is that people with Multiple Sclerosis find "illegal cannabis" the most effective pain killer and are being treat like criminals as they can't get it on the NHS so they have to buy illegal drugs OK


Sorry about your illness man!

I said I wouldn't post anymore to this thread, but I just have to correct you.

Those who suffer from MS can now be prescribed Sativex(it was trialled some ten years ago so this is not a new thing).......which is a cannabinoid legal drug made especially for this purpose....so MS sufferers do not have to resort to using illegal cannabis.

In an earlier thread you asked if the pharma company were blocking the legalisation of cannabis because it robs them(or deprives) of revenue.

If you think about this logically, the pharma companies would love to legalise the stuff, as it would be a regular and lucrative market for them.

It is illegal for a reason......that reason has been gone over and over and over in previous posts.......but you cannot be convinced because you don't want to listen to an opinion which differs from your own.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by jaysay

calling you a prat is not an insult its a fact

You are a double pratt and I don't give a damn if you have "back up!"

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I said I wouldn't post anymore to this thread, but I just have to correct you.

Those who suffer from MS can now be prescribed Sativex(it was trialled some ten years ago so this is not a new thing).......which is a cannabinoid legal drug made especially for this purpose....so MS sufferers do not have to resort to using illegal cannabis.

In an earlier thread you asked if the pharma company were blocking the legalisation of cannabis because it robs them(or deprives) of revenue.

If you think about this logically, the pharma companies would love to legalise the stuff, as it would be a regular and lucrative market for them.

It is illegal for a reason......that reason has been gone over and over and over in previous posts.......but you cannot be convinced because you don't want to listen to an opinion which differs from your own.

You are wrong - I posted a legitmate link from a BBC program that contradicts what you are saying!

I aleady posted the link to this program which clearly stated a woman was denied this Sativex and then a consultant who was prescribing it was told by the NHS Trust he worked for to stop issueing prescriptions - when one woman claimed until she tried Sativex was going to commit suicide... so again you are not getting the facts right!

Also not all NHS trusts can provide it anyway, because all trusts prioritise what drugs they think are needed more - so not all NHS areas provide this drug! Which means many MS sufferers do buy illegal cannabis to meet their needs!

Your point about pharmacutrical companies wanting to legalise it I doubt it! If it was legal then that would mean people could grow their own and that would cut their profits! Drugs like asparin, paracetomol etc can't be "home grown" they have to be bought from chemists and make companies Billions - you can't grow your own paracetomol!

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by tommiasfc

I dont think this guy looks on accy web so ill post his view

Billionaire Richard Branson talks about ending the War on Drugs. - YouTube

Good post I havn't seen this one!

[annesingleton]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

You are a double pratt and I don't give a damn if you have "back up!"

How very childish, you'll be taking your toys home at playtime next!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

You are wrong - I posted a legitmate link from a BBC program that contradicts what you are saying!

I aleady posted the link to this program which clearly stated a woman was denied this Sativex and then a consultant who was prescribing it was told by the NHS Trust he worked for to stop issueing prescriptions - when one woman claimed until she tried Sativex was going to commit suicide... so again you are not getting the facts right!

Also not all NHS trusts can provide it anyway, because all trusts prioritise what drugs they think are needed more - so not all NHS areas provide this drug! Which means many MS sufferers do buy illegal cannabis to meet their needs!

Your point about pharmacutrical companies wanting to legalise it I doubt it! If it was legal then that would mean people could grow their own and that would cut their profits! Drugs like asparin, paracetomol etc can't be "home grown" they have to be bought from chemists and make companies Billions - you can't grow your own paracetomol!

No, if it was legalised, then I am pretty sure that the government would want to ensure that what was legalised, was up to pharma standards...so growing your own wouldn't be an option.(which is why I said in an earlier post, you would still have a black market in the stuff and a gang culture).

Whilst working in the NHS, I saw Sativex prescribed for MS sufferers.
My own sister in law suffers from MS and she is prescribed Sativex.
I am stating facts as I know them...and not to prove a particular point.

I could not view the link to the BBC program....so I am not able to comment on it.

As I said previously, we are never going to agree on this subject so let us leave it there shall we?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

You are a double pratt and I don't give a damn if you have "back up!"

Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think your a fool than keep opening it and taking away any reasonable doubt
ps prat only has one "t"

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think your a fool than keep opening it and taking away any reasonable doubt
ps prat only has one "t"

Nasty piece of work you are! You have stated that "there is no debate on legalising illegal drugs - that no one should take drugs for recreational purposes!" But what about alcohol and tobacco which kill 1,000's of people per year!

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[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by annesingleton

How very childish, you'll be taking your toys home at playtime next!

You are childish - people like Jaysay can say what they like knowing that Garinda, Less, Cashman will back them up! That is a fact of human behaviour on this web site - that little clique can control and undermine debate!

[Less]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

You are childish - people like Jaysay can say what they like knowing that Garinda, Less, Cashman will back them up! That is a fact of human behaviour on this web site - that little clique can control and undermine debate!

Now there you go, without knowing you were going to have yet another dig at myself and others, I have just agreed with you in the internet creates morons thread that you just started.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Less

Now there you go, without knowing you were going to have yet another dig at myself and others, I have just agreed with you in the internet creates morons thread that you just started.

Yeh! and some?

Watch this video clip - the real reason Cannabis is illegal...

[annesingleton]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

You are childish - people like Jaysay can say what they like knowing that Garinda, Less, Cashman will back them up! That is a fact of human behaviour on this web site - that little clique can control and undermine debate!

You have no debate when you reduce yourself to name calling people who don't agree with you. Your point seems to be that if people don't agree with you then they have no point of view - I think that might make you a bigot? I would like to know, other than your personal opinions and your 'internet based research' what evidence you have that legalising currently illegal drugs would have ant benefit for our society?
I have a great deal of knowledge - both personal and professional - and I have studied the issue in some depth as well as having worked with young substance users for some years. My opinion based on my background knowledge and experience is that the legalisation of currently illegal drugs would be a mistake. I would appreciate a response from you which does not include personal insults and is based on facts which are not internet based.

[Wrighty]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Yeh! and some?

Watch this video clip - the real reason Cannabis is illegal...

Good video