Legalise "Illegal" Drugs?

[susie123]

Originally Posted by garinda

Folk like myself?

I presume you mean people who are happy with the status quo as it is, regarding recreational drugs being illegal?

Presumably those that have posted they'd like the law changed have had some personal experience with taking illegal drugs. As I doubt many would bother arguing that recreational drugs should be made legal if they hadn't, and indeed many have already given that information as fact.

So your questioning whether the other opinions given in this thread are based on actual 'experience', rather seems like you're trying to invalidate anyone's opinion who hasn't had a direct invovement with illegal drugs, even though they are happy for recreational drugs to remain illegal.

Again, as stated already, if you read what's actually been posted, the majority of people have given reasons, as to why they think what they do on this issue.

Also using the term 'sound off', when referring to those peoples' views being aired, could be seen as both patronising, and dismissive.

Nothing to do with the thread, but please use my username, when referring to myself. Thank you.

Very sorry, my fault for posting in a hurry. What I meant to say was

If you read my post I was wondering how many folks, like yourself, have direct experience. You read into it that I thought the opinion of those who don't was less valid.

Of course I don't think you have to have experience to have an opinion.

But I do think some people sound off on here. I may be one of them.

Patronising and dismissive? Takes one to know one!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by susie123

Very sorry, my fault for posting in a hurry. What I meant to say was

If you read my post I was wondering how many folks, like yourself, have direct experience. You read into it that I thought the opinion of those who don't was less valid.

Of course I don't think you have to have experience to have an opinion.

But I do think some people sound off on here. I may be one of them.

Patronising and dismissive? Takes one to know one!

So now you resort to the petty 'backbiting', that you say prevents you from reading what's actually what's been posted in this thread?

A thread that if you had read, would mean you'd have already known the answer to your question.

That seems very odd.

To say the least.

Having a skin thicker than a rhinoceros, and not being the supersensitive type, I, and any other idiot, can see by your wording that you were questioning the validity of anyone's opinion, who didn't have direct experience of illegal drugs, and by labelling their opinion as 'sounding off', it was patronising.

Deny it if you wish.

It's there for everyone to clearly see.

[Restless]

My point garinda was this.

I think it is ignorant to tar every drug user to be of the down and out type and to be the scum of the earth.

And that is what a lot of people do. Perhaps if they had taken drugs themselves they would know the difference but then they
may have a bad experience and so its not totally a valid point. But I thought I would share my views anyway. I wish i hadnt now

Some people have this opinion because they are directly influenced by propaganda.

One of my friends... his dad said 'Drugs make you gay' an honest quote

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Restless

My point garinda was this.

I think it is ignorant to tar every drug user to be of the down and out type and to be the scum of the earth.

And that is what a lot of people do. Perhaps if they had taken drugs themselves they would know the difference but then they
may have a bad experience and so its not totally a valid point. But I thought I would share my views anyway. I wish i hadnt now

Some people have this opinion because they are directly influenced by propaganda.

One of my friends... his dad said 'Drugs make you gay' an honest quote

You have some strange mates if their parents think like that Restless

[Restless]

well my mate is strange I will agree with that

Originally Posted by jaysay

You have some strange mates if their parents think like that Restless

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Restless

My point garinda was this.

I think it is ignorant to tar every drug user to be of the down and out type and to be the scum of the earth.

And that is what a lot of people do. Perhaps if they had taken drugs themselves they would know the difference but then they
may have a bad experience and so its not totally a valid point. But I thought I would share my views anyway. I wish i hadnt now

Some people have this opinion because they are directly influenced by propaganda.

One of my friends... his dad said 'Drugs make you gay' an honest quote

Just for you, so you don't think you're being attacked, and as I'm feeling nice, and generous, I'll repeat what I've already posted in this thread...for the umpteenth time.

Nowhere, not once, ever, have I posted that every illegal drug taker is a 'down-and-out type', or 'scum'.

Nor have I ever said that every 'soft' drug user will go on to take harder drugs.

However, some will, and to me decriminalising recreational drugs would increase those odds, and I don't think as a society that's a chance we should be taking.

I've posted about friends in their sixties, who've had a couple of joints every night for the last forty odd years, as well as friends who've gone clubbing on drugs for decades, neither of whom have gone on to take harder drugs, and who have happy, and rewarding lives.

I've also posted about teenagers I've worked with, who sell themselves to disgusting pigs for a tenner, so they can buy their next wrap of smack. Their pitiful existence led there via soft drugs.

Not all recreational 'soft' drug users will move on to harder drugs.

Some will.

Fact.

It's a risk, if these drugs were decriminalised, that I think would increase, and isn't a gamble I'd like to see taken.

This is the last time I repeat what I've already said regarding my views on this issue.

As they've already been posted in this thread...many times.

Posted along with my scathing opposition, because I see what they've posted as dangerous, to those who've used this thread to extol the joys of taking drugs such as L.S.D., and heroin, amongst other illegal, 'recreational' narcotics.

[annesingleton]

Originally Posted by Restless

One of my friends... his dad said 'Drugs make you gay' an honest quote

Sorry don't understand, what are you saying here?

[Restless]

I hadn't read all the posts so I shouldn't of assumed that the person that quoted you saying these things were right that you actually had said them. But I wasn't directing that at you... generally its just what a lot of people actually think because they have been taught to think likewise

I do agree with you. But my opinion is that cannabis should be legalised and all the other drugs should not be. Even if it was legalized I still wouldn't smoke it again.

Good post. thanks

[Restless]

A friend of mine who smokes cannabis. His father is anti drugs. His father said to him one day ''look at all the musicians that are on drugs that are gay'' He said that '' drugs turned people into homosexuals''.

Where this strange opinion originates from is beyond me. All I can guess is television

Originally Posted by annesingleton

Sorry don't understand, what are you saying here?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Restless

I hadn't read all the posts so I shouldn't of assumed that the person that quoted you saying these things were right that you actually had said them. But I wasn't directing that at you... generally its just what a lot of people actually think because they have been taught to think likewise

I do agree with you. But my opinion is that cannabis should be legalised and all the other drugs should not be. Even if it was legalized I still wouldn't smoke it again.

Good post. thanks

No need to thank me.

Just setting the record straight, for those who haven't read the thread, but who have just seen the total misinformation, posted by those with a hidden agenda.

Knowledge is power.

Always try to attain that knowledge from more than once source.

Especially if that source is not very reliable.

I thought your post, made yesterday morning, was refreshingly honest, even if I didn't agree with much of it myself.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Restless

A friend of mine who smokes cannabis. His father is anti drugs. His father said to him one day ''look at all the musicians that are on drugs that are gay'' He said that '' drugs turned people into homosexuals''.

Where this strange opinion originates from is beyond me. All I can guess is television

One reason to legalise drugs!

[garinda]

One reason not to legalise drugs.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m.../kestrelx.html

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

One reason not to legalise drugs.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/m.../kestrelx.html

Um nice one Rindi

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Um nice one Rindi

Ribbet, ribbet!

I wonder if he turns into a handsome prince with a kiss?

[Eric]

I believe that the legalization ... or, at least the decriminalization ... of all drugs that are now illegal will have an "upside" which will far outweigh the "downside". Many of those in power in countries such as Mexico and Columbia have put forward this position. Also, if memory serves me right, in Switzerland several years ago. "The War on Drugs" ... an idea that comes, not surprizingly, out of the USA, has failed. The yanks are big on having "wars" on things: The War on Terror is a good example. All these wars are unwinnable. But whatever, big decisions on this issue will be made at the White House today, whatever anyone else thinks. And I have no doubt that this war will continue its futile course ... like Afghanistan, like Iraq, and like the one in Viet Nam decades ago.

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