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28-09-2007, 19:18
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Well there's another way of looking at it too, less demand means less requirement for those windmills that people kick up a fuss about.
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Trust you to throw in a Red Herring ....
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28-09-2007, 19:21
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Re: Let There Be Light.
More new rules from the nanny state.
Instead of banning ordinary lightbulbs, why don't they take VAT off the energy efficent ones, which would encourage more people to use them, but afford people the choice.
I prefer the old fashioned bulbs, and therefore will begin store piling them for the future.
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28-09-2007, 19:23
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Re: Let There Be Light.
Kate -for a truly romantic light you need candles - natural beeswax with cotton wicks and containing only essential oils.
Gary - energy saving bulbs last much , much longer so work out less expensive anyway
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Last edited by MargaretR; 28-09-2007 at 19:25.
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28-09-2007, 19:25
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Kate -for a truly romantic night you need candles...
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Or even better a man!
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28-09-2007, 19:41
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Or even better a man!
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Feel like this is going off thread a little ... and all my fault ... no, not my fault, just how I feel about the 'normal' bulbs I guess, and that is important, n'est pas ?
Have loads of candles Margaret .. trouble is, just had downstairs decorated and the smoke marks they left on me wallpaper wasn't very econimical. Garinda: Cannot possible imagine what you meant by the use of candles/man. Ok, now lowering the tone .. tell me tomorrow.
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28-09-2007, 19:43
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Feel like this is going off thread a little ... and all my fault ... no, not my fault, just how I feel about the 'normal' bulbs I guess, and that is important, n'est pas ?
Have loads of candles Margaret .. trouble is, just had downstairs decorated and the smoke marks they left on me wallpaper wasn't very econimical. Garinda: Cannot possible imagine what you meant by the use of candles/man. Ok, now lowering the tone .. tell me tomorrow.
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Natural beeswax candles dont give off smoke - paraffin ones do
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28-09-2007, 19:48
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Natural beeswax candles dont give off smoke - paraffin ones do
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Oh OK, that's the best conversation stopper to date. Hope you coming tomorrow too Margaret .. would be great to see you again... xx Sorry Jambutty.
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28-09-2007, 19:49
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Originally Posted by katex
LOL .. yes, apologies, I did mean 'fewer' outlets .. or did I mean 'more' outlets for 'increasing' demand ? Anyway, you did understood what I meant thank you.
Not sure if it would entail closing down any present power stations .. demand is still increasing in other areas such as growing population and technology advances (as us on our computers tonight), so reckon these bulbs will only have a levelling effect.
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Greater demand from other sources, more income/profit.
Wonderful!
Oops! Billions of LE bulb’s, less demand, less income/profit.
Must maintain profit margins.
I know increase prices.
That’s better! Profit margins back to above their normal.
Fat cats buy new motor launch/Porche/holiday home.
Sorry for being such a cynic but the energy companies are past masters at increasing prices and making it seem like the increase is less than it really is, until you sit down and do the maths that is. But how many people can actually work out their bill before it arrives?
This getting off the topic a bit but do you know how, for example, Powergen works out how many units are charged at the Primary rate? You won’t find the answer on your bill. I found out by ringing Powergen and asking. For electricity it is 900 units in a year. That is 2.47 units per day or 226 units for a 92 days quarter. Other suppliers have different figures.
And the electricity Primary rate is very nearly twice the Secondary rate.
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28-09-2007, 19:55
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Re: Let There Be Light.
If you are on a tariff that charges more for the 'first batch' of leccy, you will not be paying a 'standing charge'.
A standing charge is the company's way of charging you for maintenance of supply lines and when they abolish the standing charge they recoup it by charging more for the initial supply of units used.
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28-09-2007, 20:00
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Well there's another way of looking at it too, less demand means less requirement for those windmills that people kick up a fuss about.
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What and destroy the industry that makes the darned things.
Now if you will excuse me for a few minutes I have this rather scrumptious looking Chocolate Brownie, that leapt off the shelf at Asda and landed in my trolley, to sample.
Mmmmmmmmmm! Delicious!
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28-09-2007, 20:04
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Originally Posted by garinda
More new rules from the nanny state.
Instead of banning ordinary lightbulbs, why don't they take VAT off the energy efficent ones, which would encourage more people to use them, but afford people the choice.
I prefer the old fashioned bulbs, and therefore will begin store piling them for the future.
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What!!!! Take VAT off. Are you trying to give GB an apoplectic fit?
Good idea though.
Somebody remind me again how the government is not interfering in our daily lives.
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28-09-2007, 21:59
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Re: Let There Be Light.
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Originally Posted by jambutty
What!!!! Take VAT off. Are you trying to give GB an apoplectic fit?
Good idea though.
Somebody remind me again how the government is not interfering in our daily lives.
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Gogs is going to need all the pennies he can lay his hands on. Though on the other hand he might order Digbat Darling next door to can some stealth taxes to win the election when he calls it.
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29-09-2007, 05:59
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Re: Let There Be Light.
Elecrician's motto, many hands make light work,
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