Lib Dems General Election 2015

[DAV007]

I know its 17 months away, but already the political parties and press are starting to focus on it.

There is only going to be 3 possible outcomes;
Conservative majority
Labour majority
Coalition required

The Lib Dems are an enigma.
The theme they will be standing on -
'this tory government would have been the worst and most nastiest possible but thanks to us Lib Dems its not so bad; vote for us because we got a few concessions'.

If anyone else thinks they are putting out a different message then please direct me to it, but that was certainly the message coming out of their conference and pre and post conference interviews.

Personally, I would love to see them get wiped from the political map.

It would be nice if Labour voters didn't vote for them because they kept the Conservatives out,
It would be nice if Conservative voters did likewise.

For years the Lib Dems have gotten away with promising things they could never deliver because they had no prospect of government;
when in government albeit a coalition they went back on issues such as tuition fees (a promise which was totally unaffordable but if you don't think your going to get elected why not!) and failing on their obsession with the proportional representation referendum.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by DAV007

For years the Lib Dems have gotten away with promising things they could never deliver

Apart from the fact the other 2 have been in government there's no difference between all 3 there

[Shurm]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Apart from the fact the other 2 have been in government there's no difference between all 3 there

True, no one listens to the ordinary man in the street anymore. We all know what topics we discuss at work/pub etc but do they do anything about any of them ? NO. Its not surprising there is so much apathy regarding voting its really just a job to get on the gravy train being an MP.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Really! Do you think that if voting changed anything, they would allow us plebs to vote...of course not.....having an electorate means that politicians have someone to blame.
Whichever party you vote for...they will not listen to any of your concerns...they are not in it ot make life better for the general public, they are only in it to line their own pockets, make a nice fat nest egg, and jump on some lucrative gravy train.
You could not put a sheet of bronco between any of them.

[cashman]

The only thing that could possibly change anything (And thats very unlikely) is if enough people voted U.K.I.P. (also very unlikely) Though they will never gain office, it would probably put the craps up the other 3 n they then would humour the electorate by pretending to listen n change a few things.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by cashman

The only thing that could possibly change anything (And thats very unlikely) is if enough people voted U.K.I.P. (also very unlikely) Though they will never gain office, it would probably put the craps up the other 3 n they then would humour the electorate by pretending to listen n change a few things.

I have said before, all the others need to do is take us out of Europe and UKIP would slowly disappear.

I am surprised how many people I know who are involved with UKIP and how quickly support is growing for them.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Neil, the fact that the three major parties have not listened to the concerns of the electorate..those people who pay MP's, is a great cause for seriously considering someone who might listen...though, I say might because politicians will promise just about anything to get your vote...once you have voted they don't seem so keen anymore.

The fact that certain politicians allowed unprecedented immigration to score political points is abominable....and that they took us to a war that was plainly not what the electorate wanted....that politicians have given away power to courts in another country....that we are paying increasing sums of money to keep a currency afloat that was doomed from its inception...all these issues have been ignored...and this is democracy for you.

[Neil]

The war one is a difficult one because no one would ever want to go to war. We don't have the information that those in power have so we can't be expected to make such decisions.

[accyman]

the lib dems are screwed you would have to be a complete and utter moron to trust them again

but then again most of us are too stoopid to understand political issues

speaking of which i wonder when our lad will show up making his election time false prommises

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Neil

The war one is a difficult one because no one would ever want to go to war. We don't have the information that those in power have so we can't be expected to make such decisions.

We were misinformed that Sadam Hussein had weapons of Mass destruction...none were found......we took young men into a conflict that we need not have been involved in....at the time the country was against such action and since then it has been shown that the politicians in power a that time misled not just the country but their colleagues too.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

We were misinformed that Sadam Hussein had weapons of Mass destruction...none were found......we took young men into a conflict that we need not have been involved in....at the time the country was against such action and since then it has been shown that the politicians in power a that time misled not just the country but their colleagues too.

The weapons of mass destruction was nothing more than a lie by the yanks and the then labour government so they could suck up to the yanks.

The war in Kuwait before that was, if I remember correctly, justified because we had agreements with Kuwait.

We will just have to wait and see what excuses the Tories give us if we end up in Syria. If the UK can cobble together enough troops that is.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by accyman

the lib dems are screwed you would have to be a complete and utter moron to trust them again

but then again most of us are too stoopid to understand political issues

speaking of which i wonder when our lad will show up making his election time false prommises

What you mean accyman, backing us in the fight to leave the EU, AGAIN