Living off the fat of the land. - Page 10

Royboy39 · 31-01-2009, 17:22

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Originally Posted by cashman

why on earth should garinda publish accounts n expenses? i think the answer lies in the fact you doubt what he says? i happen to know different, so call me a liar as well if ya wish.

As has been said on Accyweb before 'Show me the link'.
How can I possibly doubt what the chosen one say's?

garinda · 31-01-2009, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

As has been said on Accyweb before 'Show me the link'.
How can I possibly doubt what the chosen one say's?

I don't remember you attaching any documetary evidence when you started your thread about Mrs. Royboy's bounced cheque, and the subsequent bank charges.

We trusted that you were telling the truth, just as I am, without the need for bank statements, letters etc.

claytonender · 31-01-2009, 18:16

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

As has been said on Accyweb before 'Show me the link'.
How can I possibly doubt what the chosen one say's?

As Garinda is a 'just' a member of the public and a council tax payer in Hyndburn, who is not accountable to the council tax payers of Hyndburn (or anyone who posts on this website) for any expenses he has claimed either now or in the past. So there is no need for him to publicly prove what he claimed expenses for.

Neil · 31-01-2009, 18:26

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Originally Posted by garinda

If I had a problem and needed Peter's help, he'd go out of his way to help me, just as I know he's done for others, and that is one of the reasons why he's been a councillor so long in Ossy.

It could have been worse, we could have had 'that woman' as our Councillor

garinda · 31-01-2009, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Neil

It could have been worse, we could have had 'that woman' as our Councillor

I'm sure Gayle would have been just as diligent as Peter.

I guess we'll never know.

I do remember you telling me at the time you were voting for the candidate with the biggest boobs.

If only Peter hadn't stopped smoking when he did, Gayle might well now be our councillor.

Neil · 31-01-2009, 18:35

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Originally Posted by garinda

I do remember you telling me at the time you were voting for the candidate with the biggest boobs.

We appear to remember the discussion differently, it was not me who said that. I always said I was voting for Peter. If you search on here you will find me saying something like "who would not want the leader of the council as their ward councillor?"

Beside that I am too much of a gent to discuss Gayle in that way.

Royboy39 · 31-01-2009, 18:40

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Originally Posted by garinda

I don't remember you attaching any documetary evidence when you started your thread about Mrs. Royboy's bounced cheque, and the subsequent bank charges.

We trusted that you were telling the truth, just as I am, without the need for bank statements, letters etc.

That is about three years ago folks and when he gets the tantrums or wishes to insult he brings it back.
Give us the link..........and let everyone see what a spoilt brat you are.

Royboy39 · 31-01-2009, 18:44

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Originally Posted by claytonender

As Garinda is a 'just' a member of the public and a council tax payer in Hyndburn, who is not accountable to the council tax payers of Hyndburn (or anyone who posts on this website) for any expenses he has claimed either now or in the past. So there is no need for him to publicly prove what he claimed expenses for.

You know that....I know that....so what's your point?
Garinda is a big boy and can look after himself...don't you think?

garinda · 31-01-2009, 18:45

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Originally Posted by claytonender

As Garinda is a 'just' a member of the public and a council tax payer in Hyndburn, who is not accountable to the council tax payers of Hyndburn (or anyone who posts on this website) for any expenses he has claimed either now or in the past. So there is no need for him to publicly prove what he claimed expenses for.

I've never even mentioned any expense claims I've made.

I think he just wants copies of everything from my 25 yard swimming certificate, to my wage slips, and full c.v., before he'll accept that I'm genuine.

Tough. I have no intention of satisfying his idle curiosity.

Like I said, I've certainly no need to lie, and there are enough people on here who know me well, and who'd happily pull me up if I said something that wasn't true.

Sadly I guess some people judge others by their own standards.

Anyway, back to the subject in hand...

garinda · 31-01-2009, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Garinda is a big boy and can look after himself...don't you think?

Yes just as big a boy as the person who inspired this thread, but who seems to need defending by his loyal acolytes.

If you're too afraid of the arrows of public life you really shouldn't raise your head above the parapet.

Gayle · 31-01-2009, 18:59

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Originally Posted by garinda

I'm sure Gayle would have been just as diligent as Peter.

I guess we'll never know.

I do remember you telling me at the time you were voting for the candidate with the biggest boobs.

If only Peter hadn't stopped smoking when he did, Gayle might well now be our councillor.

Well just for the record I would have tried to find cheap hotels wherever I went that kept the cost down.

However, if we're on about claiming allowances, then I would claim every single penny because I would have lost about £20k a year by having to give up at Mid Pennine Arts, which I would have had to have done at the time as it was a conflict of interests!

garinda · 31-01-2009, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Well just for the record I would have tried to find cheap hotels wherever I went that kept the cost down.

However, if we're on about claiming allowances, then I would claim every single penny because I would have lost about £20k a year by having to give up at Mid Pennine Arts, which I would have had to have done at the time as it was a conflict of interests!

No one should be out of pocket, and if expenses are genuine then they are there to be claimed, both legally and morally.

As a point of interest, if you had been elected, would you have voted for the allowances to be raised by such a great a percentage hike, or would you have prefered a rise more in line with inflation?

Sorry for putting you on the spot.

Please feel free to ignore the question as not being relevant because you aren't in public office.

Neil · 31-01-2009, 19:15

I was interested to read that the allowances are limits and not automatically dished out. Receipts are needed so we the public can if we want keep an eye on which Councillor claims the maximum and which ones claim below it.

I think it is quite a good way of doing it. As I said before I worked at one place that had fixed allowances that you got if you were away for the night, lunch etc. The other place just required receipts and you were reimbursed later. We drank some beer that week, all with receipts of course

Neil · 31-01-2009, 19:22

I am not opposed to the levels of allowances Councillors get at all. Many of them work long and hard. I have spoken with both Labour and Conservative Councillors so I know the hours some do put in.

I have been dealing with LCC on a local issue just recently ( a story for another time ), I sent an email just before going to work at 4.50am on Thursday morning. That evening I received an email from Ossy's County Councillor Dorothy Westell, she sent the email at 7.42pm when most people are getting ready to relax for the evening.

garinda · 31-01-2009, 19:33

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Originally Posted by Neil

I was interested to read that the allowances are limits and not automatically dished out.

Of course, and no one is querying that.

We are now told by Jaysay that Cllr. Britcliffe actually spent £12.30 on his meal in London. More than the old allowance of £10.00, but a lot less than the increased limit of £25.00.

This is after his comment about writing a guide book if there are places to eat in London for ten pounds.

If he can adequately feed himself in our most expensive city for £12.30, why the need for a £25.00 upper limit?

Councillors in neighbouring boroughs can apparently manage with a much lesser limit, which in these times of financial crisis shows some solidarity with the many people feeling the bitter bite of the credit crunch.