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08-02-2009, 21:17
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by claytonender
Or are you scared to post anything against the current Leader of Hyndburn Council- who you are at pains to tell us is democratically elected. You appear to infer that all non Conservative councillors were not democratically.
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I am not scared to post against the current leader of any council, if councillor Britcliffe was elected on a majority verdict he is the boss.
I did not vote for Brown but he is the boss...I did not vote for Lord Mandy to be a minister but he is. Politics stink and the sooner the electorate realise that, the better we will al be.
Andrew is a student of politics, and a very able student I might add he poses questions to the posers and efforts have been made to shoot him down. I am one of the byestanders who take note of the absolute rubbish that that is being fired at him by the educated and the ones who are not so well endowed.
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08-02-2009, 21:22
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#332
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by shillelagh
At the minute i would say rising bridge is happy enough being in rossendale and we will stay that way thank you. So no i dont agree.
Oh and i've managed to find the expenses for county councillors on the lancashire county council website. And this is for 2008-2009
Some of which is posted below ...
Overnight Accommodation
Where the nature of the duties being undertaken result in a councillor or co-opted member being absent from his/her usual place of residence, overnight accommodation will be booked and paid directly by the County Council.
In exceptional circumstances where it is not possible for the County Council to make a direct booking on behalf of a councillor or co-opted member, the actual receipted cost of accommodation, including breakfast, will be reimbursed to the councillor or co-opted member. Such reimbursement will be subject to a maximum allowance per night of £129 for London and £113 elsewhere in the UK.
http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/counci...A&fileid=36669
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Only joking Jen. Still in Hnydburn Constituency though.
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08-02-2009, 21:28
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#333
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by Robert Owen
Only joking Jen. Still in Hnydburn Constituency though.
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Only joking Jen. Still in Hyndburn Constituency though.
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08-02-2009, 21:29
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#334
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by Gayle
But in all fairness, people don't actually care whether LCC put their bit up by x% or Hyndburn BC by x% or the Police by x%, all anybody actually cares about is the over all percentage that they'll end up paying.
No one actually cares who gets what! So, by saying that Hyndburn BC have put the council tax by 3.6%, whilst not factually true, is what people perceive it to be and how it affects their pockets.
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I think that's true.
The increase will be judged by the people of Hyndburn, when they are having to find the money to pay their bills in these financially hard times.
The true expense will be when that cost is weighed against the level of services we get for the money.
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08-02-2009, 21:30
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
Yes i know bernard ... the bane of my life having to come down to hyndburn for meetings........
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09-02-2009, 12:33
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
This is a link to the minutes of the meeting of the Full Council held on 19 January 2009 when the revised limits for hotel and meal allowances were passed.
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa..._190109_2_.pdf
The Labour amendment- 'That the subsistence allowance payable for hotel accomodation and the rate of evening meal allowance be increased in line with inflation' -was defated.
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09-02-2009, 21:07
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#337
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by andrewb
My opinion is they should have reported it, as council tax will rise by 3.6%...
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You make me laugh. Without you Andrew I would like Samson after a trip Nutty Normans!
Conservatives have put Council Tax up by 7% (and 10% cuts). Labour (LCC) by 2.9% with a quickly ageing population to care for.
People can see Hyndburn Tories are bad for their pockets and their Borough.
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09-02-2009, 21:11
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
Just out of curiosity, Graham, what difference would that actually make to the over all increase that people will have to pay?
When you're talking about a 7% increase you're talking purely about the HBC portion - but the Conservatives are talking about the whole thing. What difference would your 2.9% on the HBC part actually make to the total?
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09-02-2009, 21:53
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by claytonender
The Labour amendment- 'That the subsistence allowance payable for hotel accomodation and the rate of evening meal allowance be increased in line with inflation' -was defated.
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Would still not be realistic as a ceiling expense on the original figure though Westender.
Is your typing error defeated, deflated or defecated .. LOL.
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09-02-2009, 22:05
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#340
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by katex
Would still not be realistic as a ceiling expense on the original figure though Westender.
Is your typing error defeated, deflated or defecated .. LOL.
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i think its you thats made the typing error kate.
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09-02-2009, 22:18
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#341
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Resting in Peace
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by cashman
i think its you thats made the typing error kate.
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Whatever Cashy .. my realistic opinion that's all. Increase with the rate of inflation on the original question of expense was nonsense .. fed up now ... off to another thread ...
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09-02-2009, 22:40
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by Royboy39
Andrew is a student of politics, and a very able student I might add he poses questions to the posers and efforts have been made to shoot him down. I am one of the byestanders who take note of the absolute rubbish that that is being fired at him by the educated and the ones who are not so well endowed.
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Are you by any chance a relative of Andrew's.
Several facts about recent actions of the current Tory administration (which are completely true) have been posted - but he refuses to provide an answer.
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09-02-2009, 22:42
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by katex
Would still not be realistic as a ceiling expense on the original figure though Westender.
Is your typing error defeated, deflated or defecated .. LOL.
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I ment to type defeated - wish there was a spellchecker on Accyweb
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09-02-2009, 22:51
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#344
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Resting in Peace
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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I ment to type defeated - wish there was a spellchecker on Accyweb
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Didn't think was spelling error .. typing error which is different.
I go through Firefox on Accyweb and underlines spelling mistakes ... if you right click on the word it underlines in red, will give you alternatives. Problem is blooming American spelling.
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09-02-2009, 22:55
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Re: Living off the fat of the land.
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Originally Posted by katex
Didn't think was spelling error .. typing error which is different.
I go through Firefox on Accyweb and underlines spelling mistakes ... if you right click on the word it underlines in red, will give you alternatives. Problem is blooming American spelling.
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I have been using Safari (which does underline wrong spellings) but I posted that post from Internet Explorer -trouble is my fingers go to fast for the keys.
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