Lockerbie bomber to be set free .. - Page 3

garinda · 14-08-2009, 10:20

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Shocked and stunned and not a little amazed, not

At andrewb's attitude to releasing terrorists?

So was I.

andrewb · 14-08-2009, 10:33

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Originally Posted by garinda

So under that proviso you wouldn't bother sending a terminally ill person to trial in the first place, even if they are suspected terrorists, murderers, rapists, child abusers etc., because they are presumably going to die, and therefore shouldn't face justice in a criminal court?

I thought British justice was meant to be blind? Meaning we are all equal in the eyes of the law, irrespective as to individual circumstance.

Incidentally there's someone in my extended family who was diagnosed with a terminal illness, and told he had six months to live, in 1968.

Happily he's still alive today.

'After months of being at death’s door with prison guards posted at his hospital bedside, Ronnie Biggs has now discovered that five days of freedom can have a remarkable restorative effect.'

'The Great Train Robber was said last night to have made a dramatic recovery from his life-threatening pneumonia.'

Ronnie Biggs finds that freedom makes an old lag feel better - Times Online

Garinda I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. I was merely saying it's a stupid idea to release a known terrorist especially on grounds that he's going to die, what better time to do it again if he knows he's going to die anyway.

garinda · 14-08-2009, 10:36

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Release a terrorist who is terminally ill and is aware that he will die anyway.....

Well what you apparently meant isn't very clear from this post.

Reads quite clearly as a statement.

Perhaps you should refrain from posting so early until you've had your Coco Pops.

andrewb · 14-08-2009, 10:39

It would make no sense as a pure statement. Perhaps you should note the periods which suggest a continuation of sentance.. Something Accyman managed to read clearly.

jaysay · 14-08-2009, 10:50

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Originally Posted by garinda

Well what you apparently meant isn't very clear from this post.

Reads quite clearly as a statement.

Perhaps you should refrain from posting so early until you've had your Coco Pops.

I'm glad you added "Pops" Rindi

and not just an "A"

mani · 14-08-2009, 13:17

apparently the application has been withdrawn due to a turn for the worse on the guys health

Boeing Guy · 14-08-2009, 13:37

So this man is a known terrorist, okay Andrew care to elaborate, Private eye and lots of rough justice groups have questioned the chain of evidence and the conviction.
Does that make the Birmingham 6 terrorists or the Famous 5 or even the Renault 4 terrorists (sorry could not help, hehehe)

andrewb · 14-08-2009, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

So this man is a known terrorist, okay Andrew care to elaborate, Private eye and lots of rough justice groups have questioned the chain of evidence and the conviction.
Does that make the Birmingham 6 terrorists or the Famous 5 or even the Renault 4 terrorists (sorry could not help, hehehe)

Boeing I must admit I don't know all the ins and outs of the evidence surrounding this case. If the guy is innocent then justice should be saught but he should only be let out if proved innocent.. Not on the basis of his health.

Boeing Guy · 14-08-2009, 13:48

Okay so why let Biggs out, the guy in the observer, cannot remember the name, but he has a facebook fan page after him.....you cannot have one rule for one.
If the man had had a fair trial and all the evidence had been presented we would not be debating this.
The only thing I can see is our wonderful government are letting everyone out especially if they have a mild cold or worse.

mani · 14-08-2009, 14:26

^exactly

they're saying this terrorist guy showed no remorse for his actions

biggs rubbed it in peoples faces that he killed robbed and got away with it for so long

cashman · 14-08-2009, 15:07

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Originally Posted by mani

^exactly

they're saying this terrorist guy showed no remorse for his actions

biggs rubbed it in peoples faces that he killed robbed and got away with it for so long

not a valid point no-one was killed in the train robbery, check yer facts mani.

andrews point is exactly mine.

garinda · 14-08-2009, 16:01

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Originally Posted by andrewb

It would make no sense as a pure statement. Perhaps you should note the periods which suggest a continuation of sentance.. Something Accyman managed to read clearly.

After previous posts you've made on here, worrying more about the civil liberties of those suspected of terrorism, when the length of time they could be held without charge was up for debate, perhaps you should be more careful what you post.

Posting what you actually mean is very rewarding, at least I've always found it to be so.

Irony in pretty hard to de-cyfr (sic). Or so it seems when it's from your hand.

Biggs is a very good comparisson with the Libyan prisoner. His supporters were already preparing to use his Bigg's freedom as some sort of a precedent last weekend. The fact that he luckily didn't kill anyone is neither here nor there. He still had a sentence to serve, and was released because of health issues.

Are we now to see the likes of Peter Sutcliffe, Rose West, and Ian Brady freed if they too are diagnosed with terminal illness?

jaysay · 14-08-2009, 16:03

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Originally Posted by cashman

not a valid point no-one was killed in the train robbery, check yer facts mani.

andrews point is exactly mine.

Strewth, cashy and Andrew agreeing on something

garinda · 14-08-2009, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Okay so why let Biggs out, the guy in the observer, cannot remember the name, but he has a facebook fan page after him.....you cannot have one rule for one.

Let my jailed son come home to die - News - Accrington Observer

'The first offence against 83-year-old woman.'

'Both defendants had dozens of offences on their criminal records, including burglary. Each had offended against an elderly person in the past.'

Burglars jailed for raid on pensioner's home (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I'm afraid if you decide to take heroin, which means you then target and steal from eighty three year old ladies, if you get caught you may die in prison, and rightly so if you still have time on your sentence to serve.

accyman · 14-08-2009, 16:16

its a pity no one helped them die regardless of their health condition

flippin junkies wreck their own and others lives leavin a trail of victims but if by any chance they clean up their act people pat them on the back and forget about the misery they caused others :-(