London Gunman Shot Dead

[steeljack]

its becomming a popular way of "topping" yourself
Suicide by cop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
we seem to be getting at least one a month in my area , Cops don't seem to mind , they get desk duty for a while and Psych counselling.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by steeljack

its becomming a popular way of "topping" yourself
Suicide by cop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
we seem to be getting at least one a month in my area , Cops don't seem to mind , they get desk duty for a while and Psych counselling.

You quite often hear the therm on American TV programs such as Law and Order, SVU, CI but in real life you have to have some sympathy for the Cop that has to pull the trigger, in most cases its shoot or be shot

[Royboy39]

This fellow is a 33 year old practicing Barrister?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Royboy39

This fellow is a 33 year old practicing Barrister?

anyone can flip, from any background, most don't own guns though i reckon.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by cashman

anyone can flip, from any background, most don't own guns though i reckon.

They do in the USofA .... come to think of it I have guns ... but I'm stable, or so the voices in my head tell me

[Margaret Pilkington]

I just think that we do not know enough about this sad situation to comment on it......we can all make assumptions, but in the end a man has died and a family are grieving for someone who meant much to them.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I just think that we do not know enough about this sad situation to comment on it......we can all make assumptions, but in the end a man has died and a family are grieving for someone who meant much to them.

Yes Margaret a man died, but he died cowardly, the same as someone that walks in front of a train, a person can lose all reason and want to end it all but surely to force someone else into a position where they do it for you, be it the policeman with a gun or the poor sod driving a train.

To kill yourself is unfortunately a way some of us end up, to force your wish for death onto someone else's conscience is worth no defence.

[emamum]

Originally Posted by Less

Yes Margaret a man died, but he died cowardly, the same as someone that walks in front of a train, a person can lose all reason and want to end it all but surely to force someone else into a position where they do it for you, be it the policeman with a gun or the poor sod driving a train.

To kill yourself is unfortunately a way some of us end up, to force your wish for death onto someone else's conscience is worth no defence.

I think we need to remember the reason the police shot at him.. he was shooting into a bedroom which could and would have had children in.... would we feel the same way if one of those bullets had hit and killed a child?

[Less]

Originally Posted by emamum23

I think we need to remember the reason the police shot at him.. he was shooting into a bedroom which could and would have had children in.... would we feel the same way if one of those bullets had hit and killed a child?

He didn't want to die alone?

He thought he would get away with it?

No I don't remember the reason the police shot him,

I just know he was a selfish swine and the world is better without him, he got shot because he didn't give himself up, that is suicide, but it is selfish suicide, a person can kill themselves with far less drama or inconvenience to all around them.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

He didn't want to die alone?

He thought he would get away with it?

No I don't remember the reason the police shot him,

I just know he was a selfish swine and the world is better without him, he got shot because he didn't give himself up, that is suicide, but it is selfish suicide, a person can kill themselves with far less drama or inconvenience to all around them.

I totally agree with you Less, if you want to end it, don't involve someone else, this day and age if you want to top yourself it easy, without screwing someone elses life up as well

[entwisi]

no matter how you do it 'someone' has to clear you up. thats not nice on anyone

[blazey]

How anyone can call this man scum is appalling. He was a very well respected person in society and clearly had issues. He wasn't AIMING at anything, he was shooting randomly.

I think this is what one would call a 'tragedy' rather than 'tragic', and it is sad that such a young and successful life has been taken away.

I agree that it is fair to shoot him down, whether the aim was to just injure him or to actually kill, but to make negative judgments about someone for what is clearly an incident brought on by some form of distress or mental health problem is just wrong in my opinion.

[BERNADETTE]

BlazeyHe wasn't AIMING at anything, he was shooting randomly

He was shooting into a childs bedroom, I am sure any mother would find this fact very distressing. Maybe it can be looked on as lucky that the child wasn't in the room at the time.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

He was shooting into a childs bedroom, I am sure any mother would find this fact very distressing. Maybe it can be looked on as lucky that the child wasn't in the room at the time.

The news paper article I read never mentioned specifically shooting into a particular window, which would make sense seen as more than one house was damaged by his shots apparently.

Fortunate that he didn't hit anyone but at the same time, it appears the intention wasn't to actually shoot anyone seen as he had the opportunity and didn't take it to shoot one of his neighbours. Maybe I am just being too logical, but I think if my neighbour was stood shouting at me to stop shooting at property and I intended to hurt people and get killed anyway, I would've just shot her.

[cashman]

How can ya claim he was shooting randomly? a newspaper report. was on the news tonight that his parents are demanding answers, so they obviously don't really know yet.