London Underground explosions - Page 8

fireman · 08-07-2005, 11:39

Went in the petrol station at the Griffin on Burnley Rd last night. The asian guy behind the counter told me that the Americans were responsible for the London bombings and many others and are doing it just to make Al Keida look bad in the worlds eyes. I know where I won't be buying petrol again.

harwood red · 08-07-2005, 11:58

what a ridiculous statement for him to come out with, especially at a time when passions are heightened, he should be standing together with the rest of us

mani · 08-07-2005, 12:02

people ask the muslim community to hand over people like this etc

but do they really assume its that simple?

people as such as these stay in touch with each other for years. making sure they can trust each other etc. they form their own close knit "club". they'll walk around as if they're common people. if people cud read minds that wud b the only way anyone wud realise that these people are terrorists.

its easy enough to say that the muslim community is harbouring such people but its not deliberatly. if i had one such person lviing in my street do people honestly think the next day or days before he would be shouting from the roof tops or letting people know what he had done or was about to do? just like a criminal they lie low, htey realise the value of blending in.

someone will be waking up today with a terrorist in the house next door. do you think they realise what their neighbour has done?

and another thing i wud want to say is that i doubt there is a direct link to this group to al qaeda/bin laden - i doubt mr bin laden told these fella's what to do. most likely whats happened is that they've carried this out. claimed allegiance to al qaeda knowing they'd approve of what they've done

pendy · 08-07-2005, 12:30

Back in work, although I had to get through the police cordon and it took a very long time. As of last night, there was still rescue work going on underground on the Piccadilly Line and the bus is still there, or pieces of it are, this morning.

Thank you all for thinking of us, and all your messages. Our phone at home rang so many times yesterday with friends and acquaintances asking if we were okay - some most unlikely people, too - a business associate of David's rang us from Alderney. Thanks for your pms, it is a great support. The horror of it doesn't bear thinking about - I don't like the Tube at the best of times, but being trapped underground is my worst nightmare. I shall, however, continue to use it. On the bus this morning, strangers were chatting, discussing matters, and the general feeling seems to be that we will fight back, if only by going about our normal business.

There is a strong suspicion that a suicide bomber was responsible for the bus outrage. The powers that be are saying there were only two fatalities, but that is not what one of the emergency services at the scene told me yesterday. His opinion was that they would not know for some time how many people had been killed, because of the awful scale of the damage. I did offer any help I could, having been a nurse, but apparently Health & Safety raises its ugly head again. All we could do was offer coffee and loo facilities. There was a lot of confusion, no-one seemed to know for ages just what had happened and where. I think the general consensus is that it could have been far worse, and we can only thank whatever God we believe in that it wasn't.

Thank you all again for the kind thoughts - we have to remember that there is good in this world, even though there are creatures who will carry out such awful acts.

Doug · 08-07-2005, 13:57

I have no doubt that most of us are monitoring the News. Just sat here listening to these poor people who are now going thought the pain and grief of trying to find loved ones. It’s difficult to believe that we’re back in the black days of outrages being committed by so called Terrorists. It seems such along time ago since we had to put up with these threats.

I wasn’t surprised by Pendy’s comments about wanting to help and being prevented from doing so because Health and Safety, what I dread is the possibility that more of our people and visitors to our country will lose their lives because of the Human Rights Act and how its interpretation will allow hundreds if not thousands of Terrorists and there sympathisers cross our boarders at will. They may even draw funding form our own benefits system. I was alarmed today to receive a letter from the BMP, And so soon after these attacks. Maybe they have a point?

garinda · 08-07-2005, 14:09

Although as a nation we are sometimes accused of showing very little national pride, on St. Goeorges day for instance, it's at times like these when our real national identity comes to the fore.

We are the same people who survived the Blitz and the IRA.

As a tv bystander, unlike the two members here who were sadly more closely involved, just watching the heroic acts of the emergency services and members of the public, and the calm way people looked to be reacting after initial shock made me realise we will win.

Having lived in London for 17 years and having heard three bombs explode, the Soho bomb being whilst in the same street, l can understand a little of what happened yesterday. Unfortunatly it won't be just about yesterday.

Everytime somebody leaves a bag of rubbish on the tube, be it a Macdonalds bag or a carrier bag, the tube will be closed down resulting in more disruption.

The company l worked for in London also saw our profits fall by over 60% in the two years after the first Gulf War as Americans stayed away from Europe, it was a similar after 9/11.

The infra structure of this great city is very delicate, happily it's people aren't.

Tealeaf · 08-07-2005, 14:49

Looks like Accy Web made the pages of the LET:

http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/la...TTOPNEWS1.html.

Who's this Nigel fellow, I wonder?

Sparkologist · 08-07-2005, 16:46

If the local rag is lifting quotes from Accyweb, they should at least have the honesty and integrity to recognise their source in full.

Is Nigel your Sunday name Mr T, Sir? Or do we just put this nom-de-plume down to lazy journalistic licence?

WillowTheWhisp · 08-07-2005, 18:50

My first thought on reading that was "Who the heck is Nigel?" It would have been decent of them to have given the URL of the website wouldn't it?

WillowTheWhisp · 08-07-2005, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by mani

its easy enough to say that the muslim community is harbouring such people but its not deliberatly. if i had one such person lviing in my street do people honestly think the next day or days before he would be shouting from the roof tops or letting people know what he had done or was about to do? just like a criminal they lie low, htey realise the value of blending in.

someone will be waking up today with a terrorist in the house next door. do you think they realise what their neighbour has done?

That makes total sense Mani.

My parents lived close to an IRA bomber for years and didn't have a clue. He was a very respectable member of the community with a decent job and always very polite and friendly. Who was to know he was making bombs in his back kitchen and had a car boot full of semtex? It sends shivers down my spine now when I think that we were parked next to him one day when the police made their discovery. We could have been blown to smithereens.

I don't believe any law abiding decent citizen would willingly sheild these sort of people but the irony of it is that we know only too well of people who incite others to violence and yet the powers that be have their hands tied when it comes to deporting them or even denying them benefits because that would infringe upon their human rights and civil liberties. The worm has got to turn. Such nonsense has got to stop.

I'm not surprised if the BNP will have a field day over this even though I find the party totally abhorrent.

It's about time things changed.

Acrylic-bob · 08-07-2005, 22:42

The Wahabi interpretation of Islam, of which the above is a an example, is promulgated to the young through Mosques and educational institutions and is funded by Saudi Arabia, among others.

Those who preach and promulgate this vile, distorted, hateful creed are every bit as gulity as those who make and plant the bombs. As are those who prefer to turn a blind eye to it.

As Edmund Burke observed during the horrors of the French Revolution: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Evil is Evil. It matters little what clothes it wears nor how it puffs itself up to appear holier than thou. Yet again I am reminded of the New Testament's advice:

"By their fruits shall ye know them."

chav1 · 09-07-2005, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireman

Went in the petrol station at the Griffin on Burnley Rd last night. The asian guy behind the counter told me that the Americans were responsible for the London bombings and many others and are doing it just to make Al Keida look bad in the worlds eyes. I know where I won't be buying petrol again.

he may have been the owner as it is asian owned

you should have emptied the fuel pumps over his station and torched it and told him that it wasnt you it was the americans that did it in an attempt to make you look bad lol

Len · 09-07-2005, 18:15

We believe that Tintin’s aunty was on the bus that was attacked in London.

Mik Dickinson · 09-07-2005, 18:32

Glad to hear that all are ok.Cowardly and dispicuos is the only words i can think of

Dean · 11-07-2005, 07:58

just thought i'd say something about this topic i was in france with college at the time and wen we heard (very little) and we were all scared at was quite frightening and nobody knew wat had happened fully as soon as we reached england and got to a service station (as the papers hadn't arrived on the ferry) all the papers flew off the stand it was a big shock i couldn't believe it, it felt like another 9/11.

glad every one on here is ok hope all your families are ok to

is there anymore news on tintins aunty?