Love kills.

[accymel]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

When I was a child the staple diet was banana butties with an occasional change to Spam butties. A cooked meal was a very rare treat. I think my daughter does get a slightly more balanced diet though because I would throw a hissy fit if I saw a banana or spam butty in my house

Banana butties were treats when i was young heheehe good job lad has gone off them now seemingly LOL

Spam uurrgghhh

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by flashytart

reece is 10 willow, i dont quite explain it that way...it sounds better saying well you have to learn for when you get older

Well I just kind of point out that if I didn't do the washing for example they wouldn't have clean clothes and it's not a punishment or a hardship 'doing chores' it's just a necessary part of life. They spend longer moaning about whose turn it is to wash up than it would actually take to do it sometimes

[accymel]

Originally Posted by flashytart

reece is 10 willow, i dont quite explain it that way...it sounds better saying well you have to learn for when you get older

i do same here, madam is on perm washing up duty as she's earning her pocket money for things she wants, like harry potter mag & phone credit etc, same with tother one if he wants stuff, yes its a lesson for life i teach mine as lucky to be here to give them that privelidge for chance i shouldnt not be here not taking my life for granted as to when me cards run out! Also i lead by example as well! Me not perfect no such thing lol.

[Tinkerbelle]

Poor sods, I feel sorry for them. It's fine to sit there commenting on what a terrible parent she is but if she didn't have a decent role model, how's she to know? Maybe in her eyes the child is fed, clothed and loved she doesn't see it as neglect.

I didn't see the programme, there definitely isn't an underlying health problem?

They should both be educated on his health and diet but I definitely don't think he should be taken into care.

[flashy]

see i dont give reece pocket money because i see that as a bribe if i give him money for doing stuff, he knows that he can have things when i see fit, not just because he does stuff, if i have it i will give it him, if i havent got it then he does without

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by flashytart

lol things where different in those days though dave

I beleive bananas were rationed in the war so it's not as far back as you think

[flashy]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Poor sods, I feel sorry for them. It's fine to sit there commenting on what a terrible parent she is but if she didn't have a decent role model, how's she to know? Maybe in her eyes the child is fed, clothed and loved she doesn't see it as neglect.

I didn't see the programme, there definitely isn't an underlying health problem?

They should both be educated on his health and diet but I definitely don't think he should be taken into care.

well said ........

[flashy]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

I beleive bananas were rationed in the war so it's not as far back as you think

yes dave if you say so

[accymel]

Originally Posted by flashytart

see i dont give reece pocket money because i see that as a bribe if i give him money for doing stuff, he knows that he can have things when i see fit, not just because he does stuff, if i have it i will give it him, if i havent got it then he does without

its not a bribe its earning!! in preparation for the wide world, so that they grow up in order to get things in this case of suitable extras is to earn them, so they wont be bums when older & that things arn't always handed to them on a plate or sponge - hopefully!! But meantime they get what they need.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Poor sods, I feel sorry for them. It's fine to sit there commenting on what a terrible parent she is but if she didn't have a decent role model, how's she to know? Maybe in her eyes the child is fed, clothed and loved she doesn't see it as neglect.

But missing numerous appointments to see a nutritionist is neglectful.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by accymel

its not a bribe its earning!! in preparation for the wide world, so that they grow up in order to get things in this case of suitable extras is to earn them, so they wont be bums when older & that things arn't always handed to them on a plate or sponge - hopefully!! But meantime they get what they need.

Yep that's the way I see it too. They get a certain amount and if they want extra they can earn it by doing extra jobs - that's how life works in the big bad world.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by garinda

But missing numerous appointments to see a nutritionist is neglectful.

Sometimes when someone is suffering from depression it's hard for them to even motivate themselves to get out of bed. It may sound like laziness to the rest of us, but it's different. I hope they both get the help they need.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Sometimes when someone is suffering from depression it's hard for them to even motivate themselves to get out of bed. It may sound like laziness to the rest of us, but it's different. I hope they both get the help they need.

If she is clinically depressed, which I can sympathise with, it's been going on for eight years, and perhaps sadly the only answer is her child going into care.

[WillowTheWhisp]

Surely if she gets treatment it will make a difference?

[accymel]

Originally Posted by garinda

If she is clinically depressed, which I can sympathise with, it's been going on for eight years, and perhaps sadly the only answer is her child going into care.

oh my how empathetic are you??? She hasnt beaten him & done some sick things like other evils have & got away with for yrs & now condemn someone for a mental illness, shes not that cruel she just gave in - kids tempers are hard to ignore maybe she wasnt strong enough, all she did was induldge her baby a bit too much, with help she should be ok providing she takes it now!