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Old 06-01-2009, 04:16   #16
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Re: M&S phantom dress?

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My trouble is that I'm honest to the point of stupidity. One day last year I went round Sainsburys with one of the trollies that has built-in racks for bottles underneath. I went through the checkout and out of the store to my car. It was only when I was loading the shopping into my boot that I realised I had a bottle of vodka and a bottle of wine in the rack that I'd forgotten about and hadn't paid for.

Now nobody had noticed, nobody had felt my collar, and what did I do? I went scurrying back into the store and paid for them - like an idiot.

For just that reason, I won't let any shop get away with overcharging/shortchanging me and, if they try to, my heels get firmly dug in until I'm proved right.
I think it is really nice that there are honest people in the world in respect to things like that, billions of pounds is lost through shoplifting and it is pretty ridiculous. In my situation it wasn't my mistake, it was theirs. But if either of us had been accused of stealing then we'd be treated no differently than the people who knowingly and purposefully take things and we'd probably have both been treated the same in court over it. Judges and juries are generally biased towards the people standing in the dock whether it is positive or negative things. They pick up on class and circumstances and all the rest of it, but the lawyers themselves aren't going to be nice to us and do what is right if they're trying to get results!

I guess that is my acknowledgement of the legal profession being ruthless. It doesn't happen often.
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Old 06-01-2009, 04:30   #17
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I think it is really nice that there are honest people in the world in respect to things like that, billions of pounds is lost through shoplifting and it is pretty ridiculous. In my situation it wasn't my mistake, it was theirs. But if either of us had been accused of stealing then we'd be treated no differently than the people who knowingly and purposefully take things and we'd probably have both been treated the same in court over it. Judges and juries are generally biased towards the people standing in the dock whether it is positive or negative things. They pick up on class and circumstances and all the rest of it, but the lawyers themselves aren't going to be nice to us and do what is right if they're trying to get results!

I guess that is my acknowledgement of the legal profession being ruthless. It doesn't happen often.
Not often or if ever and your right blazey the Law is a bit like football really, a results game, win at all cost and never let the truth get in the way of a good pay day in Chambers
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Old 06-01-2009, 14:13   #18
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Not often or if ever and your right blazey the Law is a bit like football really, a results game, win at all cost and never let the truth get in the way of a good pay day in Chambers
Well George Carman certainly drank to that many times!! Hic!!


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Old 06-01-2009, 15:27   #19
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could have understood this if it had been "Burnley" Marks @ Spencer" they wouldn't know the difference oer yon.
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Old 06-01-2009, 15:32   #20
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Blazey, it's one of my biggest fears that one day I will inadvertantly shop-lift something and be prosecuted. It's something I would never contemplate doing consciously but it's so easily done.

It wouldn't matter a damn to the store management, the police or the magistrates that I've been honest all my life and it would do no good to protest it was accidental. One slip and I would be branded a thief and/or losing my marbles. It's a frightening thought.
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Old 06-01-2009, 15:37   #21
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Dr Isabel Barnett (who was in Whats My Line on tv) did just that....
and the poor soul did herself in because of the shame
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Old 06-01-2009, 15:45   #22
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Dr Isabel Barnett (who was in Whats My Line on tv) did just that....
and the poor soul did herself in because of the shame


It's her who I always think of in that connection. They tried to make out she was loopy and a kleptomaniac but I believe she just did what I did with the vodka and wine - forgot to pay.
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