Madness Returns

SPUGGIE J · 09-10-2006, 05:16

Well looks like the North Koreans have done it this time with its nuclear test. China gets 20 mins warning and the rest of the world find out thanks to a 4+ ricter scale earthquake. A paria state now has the bom in a very nervy part of the world so where do we go from hear. If N Korea ignores what China says then what chance for the rest of the worlds countries.

andrewb · 09-10-2006, 06:03

Just read this on the bbc. I wonder what America is going to say.

SPUGGIE J · 09-10-2006, 06:39

I am more worried about what they will do. The Korean war only stopped due to a ceasefire and in theory could blow up again. The nuclear ambitions of N Korea could be construde as hostile and another notch up to war. The deciding factor this time will be wether they have like '50 - '53 Chinese support. There are already gitters in the fanancial markets and thats how to hurt the major western economies.

WillowTheWhisp · 09-10-2006, 07:10

So far they have nuclear ability but they don't have anything small enough to make into a bomb and attach to a missile. It's doubtful they could even get it on board a plane.

What I find ironic is the statement "We will no longer be sending aid to North Korea" - they have been receiving aid and what have they been wasting this on instead of where it should have been going? - developing nuclear weaponry!!

Neil · 09-10-2006, 09:44

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

What I find ironic is the statement "We will no longer be sending aid to North Korea" - they have been receiving aid and what have they been wasting this on instead of where it should have been going? - developing nuclear weaponry!!

Its the same with Pakistan isn't it. Only yesterday the news reported on people living in shelters since the earthquake there and needing International aid. Haven't they been busy spending money on nuclear testing as well.

I think a preemptive strike on Korea would be a good idea. We could do with testing our nukes still work after all these years of stock piling.

After that maybe Pakistan and India might listen when we say stop developing nuclear weapons or they can have it next.

Ianto.W. · 09-10-2006, 14:28

It's a tough one this, one wonders what there motives are, what have they to gain from it?
Will the chinese support them?, the good lord couldn't tell you what they will do, I only hope Dubya Bush does not jump in feet first as he usually does.

SPUGGIE J · 09-10-2006, 14:54

Unless there is a firm stand that shows the world means business then what about Irans ambitions? To do nothing other than mump and moan will give tehran the green light to make their own A bomb and aim it at Isreal and we all have an idea what will happen then.

steeljack · 09-10-2006, 17:12

Seems a bit hypocrisy is creeping into the outrage and foot stamping being shown by the administration in Washington

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...2316/index.htm

Ianto.W. · 09-10-2006, 19:40

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Seems a bit hypocrisy is creeping into the outrage and foot stamping being shown by the administration in Washington

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...2316/index.htm

A most enlightening article thank you.

SPUGGIE J · 09-10-2006, 20:18

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Seems a bit hypocrisy is creeping into the outrage and foot stamping being shown by the administration in Washington

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...2316/index.htm

From a quick read I get the impression DR is torn between getting dosh in the bank or war. For someone who was like a rabid dog over Iraq he seems now to have become a sloth ove N. Korea.

steeljack · 09-10-2006, 20:23

the 24 hour news channels are playing this up non-stop, now all the chatter is about the new Japanese Prime Minister not trusting the US/west for its defense so the fear being expessed is that Japan will change its constitution and start its own nuclear program

SPUGGIE J · 09-10-2006, 20:30

Looks like a nuclear arms race could unfold and the Japanese are savy and skilled enough to do it in double quick time. Apt title now as we are close to a rerun of the cold war SE Asia style and god help us if it gets out of hand.

BLACKBURN RAVER · 09-10-2006, 20:41

and heres me thinking suggs n co were all set for a tour of accy

andrewb · 09-10-2006, 21:48

Better start building our accyweb sponsored shelter? At least we'll keep each other entertained for about 40years.

mani · 09-10-2006, 22:48

see what i think is that usa is nothing short of hypocritical

it uses the UN defence council to its own means...

example

india/pakistan test bombs and sanctions are placed by UN. usa/india sign big business deal - sanctions lifted. pakistan allows usa to use its soil for afganistan and iraq - sanctions lifted. usa refuses to supply pakistan with f-16's china agrees to supply pakistan with fighters. f-16's a few months later deleivered to pakistan.

the same will happen with this. russia and china who have very good diplomatic links wiht n korea will simply continue as normal and usa will realise its on the end of a financial disadvantage - esp when it comes to china and will take steps to improve relations.

with china on its doorstep - n korea is under no false illusions that it is s-asia's big boy. its not. the fact that usa has continued such a one sided support program of japan and s-korea its pushed n korea to facilitate its own defences.