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Ianto.W. · 18-04-2007, 10:35

My work used to take me all over Great Britain, and some European countries, What I found was that in large cities, without wanting to single any one out, that swearing during normal conversation was the accepted norm, even amongst women. I am not defending the practice but it was very infectuous, so take heed when swearing in front of children, as they may catch the habit.

Eric · 18-04-2007, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Shaker, Chaucer was speaking the language of the day...the words commonly used as swear words were Old English parlance......but personally I do not want to hear them bandied about by people who wouldn't know that fact if it bit them on the bum. You don't hear these same people using Latin do you...that is another one of the old languages.
The best compliment that I can offer you is to hope that you live long enough to be seen as 'Old fashioned'.

I think that swearing is just a sign of a lazy mind and it is a fashion of followers rather tham leaders. I would rather be a leader than a follower.
And I would rather be deaf than have to listen to the foul language of SOME of the youth(and not so young) of today.

Like it or not, obscenity is the language of our day ... familiarity brings not only contempt but also a degree of immunity. And it can be a source of entertainment. I would recommend George Carlin's skit, "7 Dirty Words You Can't Say on TV." Or his latest book, "When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?"

Still, I do believe that the rule of common sense should apply. If my buddy and I are trying to fix his geriatric Harley Davidson panhead, obscentiy is approriate, particularly as it is the quirkiest f**king bike on the whole c***sucking planet! But in the company of those who you know will take offence, let common sense take over and watch yo mouth.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-04-2007, 13:26

No Eric, It is only the language of the day if you ACCEPT it as such and I don't.
I was on the bus yesterday with my daughters little three year old. Now at this age they are apt to say anything they hear. Two young men behind us were using a string of obscenities.....the three year old is listening to all this, and i do not think it is acceptable at all. A bus is a public space - they contaminated this space with foul language...all of it gratuitous. Call me wrong if you like, but I do not think it is fair or reasonable to expect me to listen to this. Can these young men not see that they are making themselves look bad? As I've said before....it isn't big and it isn't clever.

jambutty · 18-04-2007, 13:48

Much ado about nothing!

Swear words have lost their impact through misuse and overuse and as someone has already mentioned using swear words establishes the ignorance of the speaker.

Although I cringe internally when someone uses foul language near me I’ve learned to ignore it and get on with my life comforted with the thought that come tomorrow I will have forgotten all about it. However come tomorrow the foul-mouthed swearer will still be the same obnoxious, ignorant twerp.

yerself · 18-04-2007, 13:49

Why is it regarded as highly offensive to refer to someone as a four-letter word from Scunthorpe, yet more or less acceptable to call him/her a berk ?
Berk is taken from the Cockney rhyming slang 'Berkeley or Berkhamsted Hunt, which, yes you've guessed correctly, rhymes with ****.

West Ender · 18-04-2007, 19:21

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

One must get acquainted with The Miller's Tale, then.

Oh, but one did, when one was studying for A level English. Chaucer didn't use the "4 letter word" to pepper every sentence for no reason other than bravado and an inability to express himself adequately.

shakermaker · 18-04-2007, 19:52

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Originally Posted by West Ender

Oh, but one did, when one was studying for A level English. Chaucer didn't use the "4 letter word" to pepper every sentence for no reason other than bravado and an inability to express himself adequately.

One forgot the smiley in one's post

I still find it idiotic the way people who 'swear' are generalised into this yob culture, just because of these absurd old fashioned ideals.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-04-2007, 19:55

Perhaps you find it absurd because you have no ideals.

shakermaker · 18-04-2007, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Perhaps you find it absurd because you have no ideals.

I'm sorry, do you know me? No. Do you know what I believe in? No.

Don't be a fool.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-04-2007, 19:59

No I don't know you personally, but you have stated in this thread some of the things you seem to believe in.
And if you are calling me a fool, then maybe I could ask you the same question....but I won't do a Gondola and answer the question myself.

shakermaker · 18-04-2007, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

No I don't know you personally, but you have stated in this thread some of the things you seem to believe in.

From this thread...ah, I see.
I'm ever so sorry, you must obviously have an incredibly sound knowledge of my character.

I'm off to get my trackies on, get on a bus, blare my dance music out & hurl abuse at old folk, before this thread gets silly...

Don't patronise me.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-04-2007, 20:08

Please afford me the same courtesy then....and do not patronise me.

I do not have a sound knowledge of you....... only an opinion based on my observations from your postings in this thread.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-04-2007, 20:09

You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

Oh, and if you are going out do be careful crossing the road.

shakermaker · 18-04-2007, 20:12

Margaret, unlike you, I have made no presumptions about the character of other members.
Judging me from a few posts I have made in this thread on one miniscule topic is foolish.
Please don't do it again.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-04-2007, 20:18

But you presume me to be a fool.....is that not foolish? You must have based your assumptions on something. And please do not direct me as to what I may or may not do.