Man caught warning motorists of speed camera is fined

[heth]

I have broke it!!!!!!!!!

[Bob97531]

rock on !!!

I've never, ever broke it.... ever...

[heth]

Originally Posted by Bob97531

rock on !!!

I've never, ever broke it.... ever...

Do you not drive Bob?? Only answer really...............

[Neil]

Originally Posted by heth

I have broke it!!!!!!!!!

Wow how very rock & roll of you

Half the camera vans you see are parking in silly places obstructing the road or footpath.

Speed is not always a factor when someone is hit by a car. Basically you can't hit them if they are not on the road and its not always the drivers fault.
I have hit 2 people, both not my fault, both in Burnley strangely but I don't think that was relevant.

[Bob97531]

Yes of course I drive and yes of course I break the speed limit pal, like I said if anyone says they dont then thats lies I tell thee...

I dont go round blasting myself back to the future at every opportunity but yes if i'm on my way home from work i will do 80mph maybe 90mph sometimes, i'm always careful if theres things around but as for open roads and motorways then why not...

And again before the road captains get their hats on i'm not saying blast your way through at twice the limit but is 35-40 in a 30mph really that bad... if you gps your speed at an indicated 30mph you will only being doing 26ish mph anyhoo !!! 34mph on my dash is 30mph gps speed... so if on my dahs i'm doing 37-8mph then i'm only doing around 33-34mph, should I really be hung drawn and quartered just for that...

[Bob97531]

Originally Posted by Neil

Wow how very rock & roll of you

Half the camera vans you see are parking in silly places obstructing the road or footpath.

Speed is not always a factor when someone is hit by a car. Basically you can't hit them if they are not on the road and its not always the drivers fault.
I have hit 2 people, both not my fault, both in Burnley strangely but I don't think that was relevant.

Theres the issue matey !!! lol

[Bob97531]

Also, excuse my ignorance but how do YOU hit 2 people if its not YOUR fault !!! lol !!!

[heth]

Originally Posted by Neil

Wow how very rock & roll of you

Dont you start mister or I will come and get you in me super speedy car

[heth]

Originally Posted by Bob97531

Yes of course I drive and yes of course I break the speed limit pal, like I said if anyone says they dont then thats lies I tell thee...

I dont go round blasting myself back to the future at every opportunity but yes if i'm on my way home from work i will do 80mph maybe 90mph sometimes, i'm always careful if theres things around but as for open roads and motorways then why not...

I am exactly the same as you, I dont go bombing around but I do find it very hard to stick to a certain limit

[Bob97531]

Originally Posted by heth

I dont go round blasting myself back to the future at every opportunity but yes if i'm on my way home from work i will do 80mph maybe 90mph sometimes, i'm always careful if theres things around but as for open roads and motorways then why not...

I am exactly the same as you, I dont go bombing around but I do find it very hard to stick to a certain limit

I find its much harder to drive slowly !!! sometimes on "eco" mode when its the end of the month and i'm making the diesel last I take it reaaaaaaal easy on the mway and its hard ! you have to be well on your toes !!! lol !!!

Be careful when your parking that ferrari though YES !!! lol !!!

[heth]

hahahaha i wish!!! my lil VW polo does me well, very nippy dont you know!!!

[walkinman221]

My work van has just been limited to 62mph.And its dire sometimes you do need to have a bit in reserve even if it means driving above the speed limit on the motorway.I do try to stick to the limit around built up areas because the kids these days just dont look at junctions when on their bikes or on foot and i dont want that on my conscience if i hit anybody for the sake of a few miles an hour.
But the story at the start of the thread i think is a waste of the courts and police time i have flashed to warn other motorists of speed traps and will continue to do so,it seems its just about the cash not the safety on the roads.

[Bob97531]

Originally Posted by heth

hahahaha i wish!!! my lil VW polo does me well, very nippy dont you know!!!

I imagine it is lovely and in "girl" mode its probably even quicker YES....

[DaveinGermany]

How can he be done for obstructing an officer ? If as they say the Cameras & other tools Plod uses are to prevent accidents & make people slow down (as opposed to the strongly held public belief that they're actually about making money)then surely Mr.Thompson was assisting & not obstructing ?

Similar cases have cropped up elsewhere & have been thrown out. It appears the Police don't like to be pulled up when they do wrong so will apply some general purpose law to get their way as has also been proven on various occasions in regard to various other "offences".

Here an example :-


DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC PROSECUTIONS v GLENDINNING (2005)

DC (Scott Baker LJ, Owen J) 13/10/2005

CRIMINAL LAW - POLICE - ROAD TRAFFIC

OBSTRUCTION OF POLICE : SPEEDING : WARNING MOTORISTS OF SPEED TRAPS : WARNING DRIVERS : ACTUS REUS OF OFFENCE

Where an individual gave a warning to motorists of the presence of a police speed trap, it was necessary for the prosecution to prove that those warned were either exceeding the legal speed limit or were likely to do so at the location of the speed trap for the individual to commit an offence of obstructing a police constable in the execution of his duty.

The appellant appealed by way of case stated against a decision of the Crown court that the respondent (G) had no case to answer to a charge of obstructing a police constable in the execution of his duty. Police constables had established a speed trap on a lay-by of a dual carriageway. The constables observed G making a slow-down signal with his hand to drivers behind him. G was subsequently convicted in the magistrates' court of obstructing a police constable in the execution of his duty. G successfully appealed his conviction to the Crown court, which held that the video evidence showed that none of the drivers were travelling in excess of the speed limit and that they had not reacted to G's signals by slowing down. Accordingly the Crown court held that G had no case to answer. The issue was whether, for there to be an obstruction of a police constable in the execution of his duty by warning others of the presence of a speed trap, it was necessary for the prosecution to prove that those warned were either exceeding the legal speed limit or were likely to do so at the location of the speed trap.

HELD: The actus reus of the offence could only be established where the prosecuting authority proved that those warned were either exceeding the legal speed limit or were likely to do so at the location of the speed trap. On the facts of the instant case it was clear that there was no actual obstruction by G, Bastable v Little (1907) 1 KB 59, Betts v Stevens (1910) 1 KB 1, Green v Moore (1982) 126 SJ 79 considered.

Here in Germany the local radio broadcasts with Police encouragement where speed traps are to be sited, people ring in & report them to the DJ's who then relay it to all & sundry. I can even pick up a"Blitzscheine" (piece of paper with mobile Camera locations) listed for the following week in & around my area ! That is all prevention as far as I'm concerned & if I get caught out after all that well it's my own fault. Incidentally I also warn others by flashing my headlights.

[heth]

Originally Posted by Bob97531

I imagine it is lovely and in "girl" mode its probably even quicker YES....

"girl" mode???!!! What you trying to say???!!!