Market Hall Refurbishment

[lancsdave]

In fact I've just worked out I'll have to pay the equivalent in business rates to Hyndburn council for nearly 7 years for the same amount

[Taggy]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

You'd like to think so but somehow I doubt it. We've got Kenny Baker lined up as well who is also reputed to be quite expensive.

I'm not knocking their efforts to draw people in but Wednesday is not the day to do it and in all honesty I think the traders would prefer reduced rents all round to fill the stalls and actually have something for people to buy.

Sorry Marlene, I simply can't condone spending that much money on one person. Get someone local to do a presentation using stuff that has been purchased in the Market Hall, promote Accrington and not London.

He did get a pound of Mince from Slacks Farm Butchers, and a lump of Cheese from the Cheese Stall Ken...bet that made it worth there while opening!

I would hope that Sean Wilson aint being paid much since he's basically just advertising his own Cheeses, which the Cheese stall are already stocking!

Best Regards - Taggy

[Nell]

The singer/saxophone player was good on Wednesday. The only thing though He sang all day in between zilli (for more hundreds of pounds probably!)

[Margaret Pilkington]

How can these sums of money be justified? I am disgusted that the council feel this is a cost effective way of bringing business into the Market Hall.
It would have been far more sensible to allow the stall holders a reduced rent arrangement for the duration of the trial Wednesday opening.

What a shower of doo-doo they really are.

[Alan Varrechia]

Good grief, I'm a chef, i'd have done it for the odd 30 quid.
Wonder if on his way out with his bulging back pocket he said bon-appetito.

[Neil]

Are the stall holders being charged more rent for opening on Wednesdays (yes I do Nikki) or is it like Orange Free Wednesdays?

[Alan Varrechia]

Think they will have to charge them Neil, that way they can pay for all the "entertainment".

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Neil

Are the stall holders being charged more rent for opening on Wednesdays (yes I do Nikki) or is it like Orange Free Wednesdays?

For the Market Hall the rents are charged on an annual price and paid monthly.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

The cost of Aldo Zilli's presentation has been confirmed today as £8,030 not including the flyers.

It would have been cheaper to knit, or crochet one.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

In fact I've just worked out I'll have to pay the equivalent in business rates to Hyndburn council for nearly 7 years for the same amount

Don't go doing that.

Working out the cost of things in the amount of tax you pay.

The money H.B.C. spends on these sort of things is 'special money', not people's hard earned taxes.

It's grown on magical trees, up the Coppice.

[gynn]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Shouldn't that read Aldo Zillions ! Someones taking the pish !

11 Wednesdays up to Crimbo, averaging out 8k per display = 88,000 squids !!! Oh deary me, not a wise move !

Which Council budget is this coming from? According to its Statement of Accounts, on page 30 of the following

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...d_24Sep-10.pdf

the Markets as a trading undertaking made a surplus of 87,000 in 2009/2010.

Are the Council using this surplus to pay for the Wednesday entertainments, or is it coming from corporate publicity budgets?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Where ever the money is coming from.......it is a very poor use of resources......frivolous and extravagant........with no guarantee of achieving what it is meant to achieve....that is, a better shopping experience in the Market Hall.
I would make a bet that many of those who sat and watched the cookery display left the market hall without spending anything. How does that help the traders to make a living?

[claytonender]

Originally Posted by gynn

Which Council budget is this coming from? According to its Statement of Accounts, on page 30 of the following

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...d_24Sep-10.pdf

the Markets as a trading undertaking made a surplus of 87,000 in 2009/2010.

Are the Council using this surplus to pay for the Wednesday entertainments, or is it coming from corporate publicity budgets?

I formally asked Marlene Howarth where the money was coming from - she told me that it was neither capital nor revenue but had come from some money put aside for the Town Centre Regeneration Board.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Where ever the money is coming from.......it is a very poor use of resources......frivolous and extravagant........with no guarantee of achieving what it is meant to achieve....that is, a better shopping experience in the Market Hall.
I would make a bet that many of those who sat and watched the cookery display left the market hall without spending anything. How does that help the traders to make a living?

I wouldn't be suprised if the calculations to work out if Wednesday trading has been a success, at the end of the three month 'trial', are based on foot fall into the Market Hall, to see these costly 'celebrities', rather than working out how much people spent in there.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Nell

The singer/saxophone player was good on Wednesday. The only thing though He sang all day in between zilli (for more hundreds of pounds probably!)

He was indeed and placing him on the top floor made for much better acoustics but even he will have cost a few hundred quid for the day and I'm not sure that he would have drawn anyone in specifically to listen.

There's a lot of face-saving money being thrown about to show that Wednesdays are a viable market day in Accrington and, despite being on the council, I can do absolutely nothing to directly intervene.

It's incredibly frustrating for me, just imagine how the traders feel.