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30-08-2007, 20:05
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Katex, if the government were serious about their concerns for children, they would make it easier for the parents to opt for the single vaccines....the fact that they don't, makes me feel that somewhere along the line there was some kind of financial deal with the drug companies (who have a lot of clout)...obviously i have no proof of this...it is just my cynical mind......parents have voted with their feet, and that should tell the HPA something.
How would you feel if your child was damaged after a vaccine was given? Isn't Autism a form of brain damage?
As I have said i feel grateful not to be in a position to have to make the choice.
I am certainly not advocating that parents take any notice of my views. I think all parents should research the subject, and only if they feel perfectly safe with the decision they should go ahead and let their child be vaccinated....if they have any doubts at all then I would suggest they find a clinic that will do the single vaccinantion (of course, they will have to pay for this).
I distrust a lot of the information that we are fed from government sources.
According to the government ther was no 'Gulf War' syndrome...yet previously healthy servicemen and women were damaged by the vaccinations that they were given prior to service in the gulf......OK, it may not be exactly the same...but very similar.
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I agree totally that every parent has to make this decision based on data at the present, after all we love our children and just wish to protect them, don't we ? Just that my decision to let my son have this injection was based on first hand experience of measles and information provided at the time.. i.e. to me outweighed not having it.
The measles outbreak talked about above is certainly going to catch some of the children who have not had the injection, and hope that all will be well.
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30-08-2007, 20:09
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
Yes, our children are the most precious things we will ever have......and we have to do our best by them (as we see it at the time)....and I'm sure that is what most responsible parents do.
Those who choose to take the risk of the illness over the vaccination do so because they believe they are doing the right thing, and I don't think any of us have the right to argue with that.
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30-08-2007, 22:03
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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Originally Posted by Lilly
No, if a child has had the MMR vaccine they will not get measles,mumps or rubella. This is why we vaccinate. If children contracted these illnesses regardless of whether or not they'd been vaccinated what would be the point of doing it?
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i think your wrong there,the vaccine does not stop you from getting the illness it just give you a better immunity to cope with it if you do get it,
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30-08-2007, 22:19
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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i think your wrong there,the vaccine does not stop you from getting the illness it just give you a better immunity to cope with it if you do get it,
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Believe me jackyalex, I am no expert here, but the injection is a mild form of the illness . and once you have had measles, antibodies form to kill it off if it attacks again. That's how the injection works. Tells your body that you have already had it (cause you have) so attacks any further would be invaders. The first injection only covers your children by a certain percentage, and that's why you are advised to go for the second, as this will increase the percentage to almost 100% immunity. In other words, does stop you from getting the illness in the first place.
Help, any medics out there !!.. may be talking load of balderdash, but basically know tis correct.
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30-08-2007, 22:21
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
this was the info that my health visitors gave me
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30-08-2007, 22:28
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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this was the info that my health visitors gave me
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Must agree with Kate, that is how I thought it worked though I'm not an expert either. Is it not like the Flu Jab? I thought they both worked on the same principle
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30-08-2007, 22:32
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
just found this on kids health website
Remember that measles is very rare, and a child who is properly vaccinated is extremely unlikely to contract the disease.
so it is still possible but not as i was told
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30-08-2007, 22:36
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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Must agree with Kate, that is how I thought it worked though I'm not an expert either. Is it not like the Flu Jab? I thought they both worked on the same principle
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Problem with the flu jab is that there are many forms of flu .. like thousands of cold viruses and cannot guarantee every form. Oh hek, better back off .. don't wish to give any misinformation like.
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30-08-2007, 22:37
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
I was always under the impression that a vaccination gave you a small harmless dose of the disease that your body's antibodies could fight off and that then gave you a head start on fending off the real thing if you ever came in contact with it.
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30-08-2007, 22:40
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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just found this on kids health website
Remember that measles is very rare, and a child who is properly vaccinated is extremely unlikely to contract the disease.
so it is still possible but not as i was told
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Bit like the contraceptive pill I guess, always the possibility, not 100% guaranteed, but 99% a good gamble ...
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30-08-2007, 22:44
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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Bit like the contraceptive pill I guess, always the possibility, not 100% guaranteed, but 99% a good gamble ...
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yes lol like everything else
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30-08-2007, 22:45
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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I was always under the impression that a vaccination gave you a small harmless dose of the disease that your body's antibodies could fight off and that then gave you a head start on fending off the real thing if you ever came in contact with it.
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thats what i was always told from my health visitors
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30-08-2007, 22:48
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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thats what i was always told from my health visitors
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Suppose they give you the info they have and let you make the decision.
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30-08-2007, 22:56
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
mind you they said it for every injection my kids had,but im still not letting my kids have anymore of the mmr,but thats only because 2 of my kids had a bad reaction with their 1st,im not against any parent who gives their child the vaccine nor am i against parents refusing the vaccine,at the end of the day the parents do what they feel best for their kids
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30-08-2007, 23:02
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Re: Measles Warning To Parents
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mind you they said it for every injection my kids had,but im still not letting my kids have anymore of the mmr,but thats only because 2 of my kids had a bad reaction with their 1st,im not against any parent who gives their child the vaccine nor am i against parents refusing the vaccine,at the end of the day the parents do what they feel best for their kids
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Suppose I have been lucky both my kids and all my grand-children have had all the jabs with no adverse reaction.
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