Men (or Women) on Mars - Page 2

jaysay · 24-07-2009, 09:03

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Originally Posted by ossy kid

America, today, do not have the expertise to go to the moon, land and take off again to return to earth so lets not pretend that they are capable of "doing" Mars.

You kid yourself ossy kid

They landed on the moon 40 years ago, and if anybody moves forward its the Yanks

MargaretR · 24-07-2009, 09:24

The Yanks are now bankrupt.
I am watching out for the signs of massive civil disobedience there.
The government have made plans for it - FEMA camps
The crunch will come when their financial year ends in September.
Very shortly all those people who lost their jobs (and homes) will reach the end of their 6 months dole payments. People with nothing left to lose - 'lose it'

ossy kid · 24-07-2009, 15:01

If they did it 40 years ago don,t you think they would have been back again? Of course they would, I kid you not. There,s a big space out there and some day man {U.S.A.** will travel to far reaches and good luck to them, but that time is not yet.

MargaretR · 24-07-2009, 15:24

Well since I prefer webbrowsing to shopping (or housecleaning), I have spent this mainly sunless day looking at manned moon mission evidence on the web.
(retired bored pensioners do that sort of thing)

I have joined the many who think it was all hoax.
I haven't bookmarked all the webpages I looked at, or this post would have exceeded all tolerable limits.

I have just saved this one for your perusal, because it is more like a summary of most of the stuff I looked at - happy viewing

The Apollo Hoax

Retlaw · 24-07-2009, 22:34

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Well since I prefer webbrowsing to shopping (or housecleaning), I have spent this mainly sunless day looking at manned moon mission evidence on the web.
(retired bored pensioners do that sort of thing)

I have joined the many who think it was all hoax.
I haven't bookmarked all the webpages I looked at, or this post would have exceeded all tolerable limits.

I have just saved this one for your perusal, because it is more like a summary of most of the stuff I looked at - happy viewing

The Apollo Hoax

Good one Margaret, it reminded of the name of the film Capricorn 1, which also goes a long way in convincing people just what can be faked in a flm studio.
I don't think Hollywood was involved in the making of the Apollo mission films, to many mistakes in lighting and camera angles. What beats me is why none of the original astronauts have blown the whistle, or would the cost be too dear for them.

Retlaw

MargaretR · 24-07-2009, 22:56

There are so many lies masquerading as truth that it is bewildering at times to know what is real and what isn't.

All we can do is attempt to find the truth for ourselves, and then often, when both versions are flawed, the only thing left is our own intuition.

It is all history now anyway, but it does make me cautious in believing what media outlets tell us as 'the truth'.

I don't want to appear corny but have to say
'the truth is out there'

I have just watched last nights 'New Tricks' on BBCi player.
Quite amused to note that there is more and more UFO stuff appearing on the mainstream media, which gives rise to the thought that official disclosure is not far off.
The public are being conditioned to it slowly.

accyman · 24-07-2009, 23:49

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Originally Posted by jaysay

You kid yourself ossy kid

They landed on the moon 40 years ago, and if anybody moves forward its the Yanks

kinda convinentt hat they lost teh only recording they have of teh moon landing isnt it

mind you with todays technology tehir crappy effects woudl easily be exposed so i cant blame nassa for loosing the most important footage allegedly captured on film

iv always had doubts about teh noon landing been fake and them magicly recording over somthing that by rights shoudl be locked up and protected is mighty convinent because no one can now ever examine the so called evidence

what could be so important they had to grab teh moonlanding tape and record over it

coronation street perhaps ?

Boeing Guy · 25-07-2009, 07:57

Regarding point 28 of questions that must be answered.... Quote 'In 1969 computer chips had not been invented'
In fact Integrated circuits (microchips) were invented in 1958, by Jack Killby and Robert Noyce.
The Apollo program and the Minuteman Program were the two largest purchasers of Microchips throughout the 1960's.
Since the writer of the web page is not a astrophysicist, rocket engineer, test pilot, I would think that maybe he does not know all that much. I certainly don't but managed to rebuke one of his 'facts' in a few minutes.

I have never seen any evidence that we did not go to the moon. But I have first hand, seen evidence that we did, the Saturn V, A Lunar Rover, Moon Rock and had the honour of meeting Eugene Cernan, the last man on the moon.

cashman · 25-07-2009, 08:13

fer anyone to claim "never landed on the moon" is just as nuts as funding these jaunts IMHO.

Boeing Guy · 25-07-2009, 08:22

Actually I take it all back, I have just found a website, proving beyond doubt that we never set foot on the moon, Fake Moon Landings The moon landings are fake!

cashman · 25-07-2009, 08:35

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Actually I take it all back, I have just found a website, proving beyond doubt that we never set foot on the moon, Fake Moon Landings The moon landings are fake!

that makes you as sarcastic as me........... or nuts.

accyman · 25-07-2009, 08:39

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Originally Posted by cashman

fer anyone to claim "never landed on the moon" is just as nuts as funding these jaunts IMHO.

not saying we have never gone to the moon im saying i think the first alleged landing could be fake

america was in a race with russia and if memory serves corectly america had already lost the space race to russia and i wouldnt put it past america to win the race to the moon by any means even if it meant not actually going there

lets face it they created a war against a country on imaginary weapons of mass distruction ,possibly assasinated their own president and the twin towers has so many loose ends even that story looks shakey

anyway we will never know for sure because they destroyed the only so called proof that there was

Boeing Guy · 25-07-2009, 08:41

And do you not think that the Soviets would have been watching and tracking the moon shot and waiting to expose a fake?

As I said, I Know we went, I don't need your level of proof

MargaretR · 25-07-2009, 09:44

It seems we have been lied to quite a lot by one government or another at various times.
When lies are discovered, you feel insulted don't you? I know I do.

To come to terms with distortions of history, I have found a way of coping.

Whatever propoganda they spew out next will get a response
'Darling, I don't give a damn'

..when you weigh it all up, what really matters is how you and yours are coping with living right here and now, and only when I get lies directed to me personally, will I respond accordingly -
they can mess with history all they want for their little power games.

ossy kid · 25-07-2009, 21:01

Quite right, those darn Russians would have been waiting to call "fake". Problem was, they missed it! Couldn,t find those darn Americans. I believe a couple of their generals were sent to Siberia for not being able to track the "moon landing". The one thing the supposed moon landing has created is one of the best debates of the past century, and everyone is entitled to believe whatever they deem to be the truth, even those who think it did happen.{wish I was smart enough to add a smiley**