Middle East Crisis

[Bazf]

what i'm fearin is that wiht all foreign nationals being taken out of lebanon is this a precursor to an invasion? remember kuwait back in gulf war?

Not the same mani, Israel will not invade as they are not run by a dictator, they also don't claim that the Lebanon is part of their country as Saddam did. They may occupy parts of southern Lebanon and create a buffer zone to stop rocket attacks, but they have enough problems with the Palastinians with out creating more problems with occupation of another part of the middle east.

[steeljack]

Mani .....there are large Lebabese communities spread around the world , Australia has a large one, so has South Africa , in the "old" days prior to de-colinization in Africa lots of the bush trading stores in the remotest places were Lebanese owned. Probably due to them being bi-lingual in French , Canada seemed a good place to settle, I think most of the Canadians/Americans who are being evacuated out are second/third generation visiting family who have retired to the home country. Some of the nicest people you can meet , though the Druzes have some odd habits .

[talentedbutslow]

apparently......at this time there are over 20,000 australians including those with dual nationality australian/lebanese shivering with fright in Lebanon

[mani]

this is quite saddening and disturbing...

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m24753&l=i&size=1&hd=0

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by cashman

without taking sides, from what i can gather isreal is zapping lebanon cos hezbolla snaffled a couple of their soldiers, what really brasses me off is the isralis have snaffled hundreds of the other side pre this, so its ok for them to do it but not for the palestinians, no big deal in the press about this neither, and cyfr refering to us as (blair) your as two faced as the isralies, your lot has been the biggest supporter of the u.s. in my lifetime. is that laymans enough for you tinks?

Yes But I dont think our lot supports bush... I mean, the torys are banned from the white house last I heard

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Cyfr

Yes But I dont think our lot supports bush... I mean, the torys are banned from the white house last I heard

i wouldnt put money on that cyfr.

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by steeljack

jambutty wrote........."Being Jews and therefore excellent at making money, they made huge inroads into banking, jewellery and precious metals and the film industry plus many more lucrative business opportunities."

Did you find this nugget of gold in your copy of Mein Kampf, I suppose you believe the above as a genetic fact....and also that Blacks are genetically better at athletics and genetically inferior as swimmers, you probably also believe that Eugenics is a legitimate branch of medicine.

You are putting words into my post that are not there steeljack. There is absolutely nothing in my sentence that even hints at what you imply.

It simply states that Jews are very good at making money. It does not imply that other races are not.

I don’t condone what the Israeli nation is doing to Lebanon but you can hardly blame them for trying to protect their own. It was Hezbollah that opened an Israeli second front so the Jews retaliated. People will say that they have gone over the top and they may have but that is the Jewish way with enemies of the state. Smack them down hard. They did it in Syria and Egypt and neither of those countries is keen to tangle with them again, yet if not actually friends, they are not bitter enemies any more. Commerce has triumphed over hate.

The Israelis only want peaceful co-existence in an Arab world. Whether they have the right to the land that is now known as Israel is a moot point. Historically they do not but how far back in history do you go to establish land rights?

Israel came into being in 1948 as decreed by the British and backed by the USA. Most of the world recognises Israel as an independent state of the Jews and it is only a few hotheads who want the land back.

It is a sad fact that in all conflicts the civilian population will also suffer. However it could be argued that the civilian population is part of the fighting force and thus a legitimate target. If nothing else the taxes that they pay that are used to arm the warriors makes them correspondents at arms. They may not like the way that their taxes are being used but they voted for the government in office.

[mani]

i think this says it all really

from 2morro's paper

[steeljack]

Mani , totally agree, just unfortunate that it will never be printed in the US ,