Migrant Crisis in Calais

[maxthecollie]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

It isn't just a case of space as I am sure you know. It is a case of having the infrastructure, the houses, medical facilities etc all the things that people need to lead productive lives.

Can you imagine someone walking into your house at teatime, sitting down at your table, eating the food you have worked hard to provide, using the home that you saved so hard to get for your family?
This is an analogy that equates to what these illegal migrants are doing.
Now if that sits well with you, then fine. But it does not sit well with me.

We have absolutely no responsibility to these people.
They chose to leave their homeland.

And as for the article in the Guardian, it is calculated emotional blackmail..... There are many women in Eritrea who lose babies......and as cold as this may sound the women accept it as a fact of life...They know they will go on and have other children.

We cannot be saviours of the worlds poor and homeless.....we have plenty that could be looked after who were born here!

Well spoken Margaret

[Margaret Pilkington]

Thank you Frank.
I feel sure I am not the only one with these views.
I am not callous, or uncharitable, but you just have to be realistic about what we can do..and indeed what we should do.
Actions have consequences.....even charitable ones.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by DtheP47

Not much labour endorsing, leftist leaning British hating in this article DinG

There doesn't need to be DtP, highlighting the "tragedy" of the loss of an unborn child by an African illegal immigrant is to my mind a typically biased leftist apologists approach. On the same day in UK how many other British women have suffered a similar loss? It's not made the press though as it doesn't fit the whining, bleating crowds agenda.

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Not a lot,but that's kinda missing the point....

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And the point being?

Sure people are free to roam, just so long as they follow the accepted protocols, hell even I'm an economic migrant. A Brit, living in Germany, non nationalised (although I was offered it) British passport holding individual. I made my choice & as such had to endure the rigmarole, chicanery & tedious procedures, learnt to read, write & speak the language of my host nation & all at no cost to them as I paid for & supported myself.

Subtle difference don't you think? I've been here now 30+ years (9 of those with the Military) the rest as a participant in everyday German society, working at various jobs, paying my taxes, integrating & accepting how things are over here. If you want to be part of anything it's only right you play the game & not approach it with a sense of entitlement trying to buck the system, if you do (as these illegals are) well, don't be surprised at the resentment you get.

[accyman]

hundreds of thousands of children will be put into child poverty when the new working tax credits come into play because there isnt any money in the pot but rather than stop importing more misery and leeches the government is simply going to change the requirements for been in poverty so that despite not having any money or enough to live on you are no longer in poverty your well off without a pot to pee in

people arnt racists they are sick and fed up of going without so that people who cant be bothered to stay in their own countries and sort their own problems out can benefit at other peoples expense

[cashman]

Accyexplorer has reached a new height in stupidity i reckon.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by DtheP47

Bit of a waste of pixels and motor neurons typing it then Gordon, eh?

Then again we are not alone in that on this thread eh?

No, my screen looks fine, DtheP, no pixels lost and a motor neuron is a nerve cell so using it won't waste it.

So stop worrying about wasting your pixels and motor neurons and use some telling us if you actually have an opinion on this matter. You haven't so far, posting links tells us little, especially when they're from the Guardian.

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by cashman

Accyexplorer has reached a new height in stupidity i reckon.

Just when you thought it was possible eh C :



...Group hug

[DtheP47]

Gordon you posted “When you see the videos of Calais you don't see women, children, fleeing from persecution and starvation.” The implication being they are not there and demonstrating just how poorly informed you are.
I posted an extract from a Left wing newspaper demonstrating they are indeed there, desperate and unfortunates cheek and jowl with their menfolk.
You posted you couldn’t find the link making me either a fantasist or you showing again how indeed you are apparently so poorly informed.
End of, really no need to debate or substantiate my leanings or persuasions.
And Margaret’s guff of excuse and about treating you with kid gloves because of your circumstances has more holes than that colander for sale in the age concern shop.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by DtheP47

Gordon you posted “When you see the videos of Calais you don't see women, children, fleeing from persecution and starvation.” The implication being they are not there and demonstrating just how poorly informed you are.
I posted an extract from a Left wing newspaper demonstrating they are indeed there, desperate and unfortunates cheek and jowl their menfolk.
You posted you couldn’t find the link making me either a fantasist or you showing again how indeed you are apparently so poorly informed.
End of, really no need to debate or substantiate my leanings or persuasions.
And Margaret’s guff of excuse and about treating you with kid gloves because of your circumstances has more holes than that colander for sale in the age concern shop.

Post 52 was the one where you outlined the story. You did not post a link until post 59....as I said not everyone on here is as adept as you at searching for things......and suddenly I have gone from erudite to guff.

I did not suggest that Gordon be treated with kid gloves.....what I did was remind you that Gordon was in the very early stages of a grief process.....and as such maybe he wasn't as able as usual to process or search out information.
I can see no evidence to suggest that Gordon or anyone else was branding you a fantasist...And if you haven't seen something, then you haven't seen it.
It doesn't make you ill informed especially not when you are concentrating on getting your life back together.
You really are an arrogant piece of work. Lacking in compassion, but yet posting bleeding heart, liberal hand wringing stuff about illegal migrants in another country!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Just when you thought it was possible eh C :



...Group hug

I thought you had given up on this thread Jason?

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I thought you had given up on this thread Jason?

Didnt I say that I was done with the "topic"? Besides,you know full well what it's like when you say your done with a thread then you want to post again

[accyman]

i will no longer be posting on this thread

[accyman]

ok im back

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Didnt I say that I was done with the "topic"? Besides,you know full well what it's like when you say your done with a thread then you want to post again

And there I was thinking that changing your mind was a female thing Jason.

[Accyexplorer]

on the contrary M,I became quite well known for my Uturns on this forum