Milnshaw Park - Page 3

WillowTheWhisp · 21-12-2006, 09:07

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

You can make it happen. But it requires a sustained commitment. Part of that is impressing upon local government that this is important to you. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the most oil.

Oh we're not short of a bit of squeaking but I think HBC just turns a deaf ear.

However, that wasn't what was meant.

You can spend a whole week with volunteers cleaning up the parks and getting rid of the druggies' needles, painting over the graffiti, mending broken fences etc but turn your back on it for a couple of days and the vandals are round there again wrecking the place. We need people employed on a regular basis to look after the parks like we had 'in the olden days'.

SPUGGIE J · 21-12-2006, 09:21

Employing a full time parky is a good idea in theory but unless he has the backing required to stop these idiots then they will still carry on as normal. I rember Gatty Park having its own parky and being chased out several times (not for anything bad mind) and we had no problem escaping and then going back. These idiots will allways win as there is no real legal backup for the parky and ifd it does come it will be guarenteed to be late and inaffective.

WillowTheWhisp · 21-12-2006, 09:25

Yep, it seems like we just keep chipping away at the effect without actually being able to tackle the cause.

If you do try to stop vandals you just get a mouthful of abuse - or worse.

bullseyebarb · 22-12-2006, 16:29

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Oh we're not short of a bit of squeaking but I think HBC just turns a deaf ear.

However, that wasn't what was meant.

You can spend a whole week with volunteers cleaning up the parks and getting rid of the druggies' needles, painting over the graffiti, mending broken fences etc but turn your back on it for a couple of days and the vandals are round there again wrecking the place. We need people employed on a regular basis to look after the parks like we had 'in the olden days'.

Obviously a quality of life issue. What's needed here are regular police patrols. As taxpayers you have a right to enjoy the park. Don't suppose there's much chance of you getting the coppers to flush out the dregs of society on a regular basis, is there?

cashman · 22-12-2006, 19:56

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

Obviously a quality of life issue. What's needed here are regular police patrols. As taxpayers you have a right to enjoy the park. Don't suppose there's much chance of you getting the coppers to flush out the dregs of society on a regular basis, is there?

regular police patrols pmsl,bullseye we dont even get them around the residential areas,never mind the parks. would agree its a quality of life issue,but we dont get one.

WillowTheWhisp · 22-12-2006, 20:07

Oh the blissful ignorance of dwelling elsewhere eh Cashman?

Ianto.W. · 22-12-2006, 22:57

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Originally Posted by cashman

regular police patrols pmsl,bullseye we dont even get them around the residential areas,never mind the parks. would agree its a quality of life issue,but we dont get one.

They have a heck of a job 'patroling' strapped inside a police car.

entwisi · 23-12-2006, 00:27

When I was at Uni I had a summer job as 'Park Patrol' in Milnshaw. (This was ~87). At that time there were 2 groundsmen employed to look after that one park (Although they did grow plants in teh greenhouses for Gatty as well.) My job was to stop kids wrecking the joint. I used to organise games of footy, sort out the tennis nets and other jobs. The old dears looked aftyer teh bowling green although we used to have a good few kids who would often have a game with the owd codgers.

Sadly cost cutting meant that teh gardeners wre asked to take on more parks and eventually they couldn't keep up.

cashman · 23-12-2006, 01:00

Sadly cost cutting meant that teh gardeners wre asked to take on more parks and eventually they couldn't keep up.-------------------------------------- and thats the truth entwi! but the way things are now i doubt wether the return of wardens would halt the oiks. the gardeners would certainly improve the view.

cashman · 23-12-2006, 01:02

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Oh the blissful ignorance of dwelling elsewhere eh Cashman?

yeh but he means well willow.

bullseyebarb · 27-12-2006, 19:21

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Oh the blissful ignorance of dwelling elsewhere eh Cashman?

I'll own to blissful. However, even though I left the borough long ago, I still consider myself to be a local lass. Have many relatives in the area and visit periodically. I am aware of the problems....and even more up to speed since joining AccyWeb.

It's been a long time since I walked through Milnshaw Park and I am sorry to hear that it is in such bad condition now. Nothing beats a policeman patrolling on foot. The priorities are all wrong these days.

How's about some publicity to draw attention to the situation? Local paper/radio?

grego · 27-12-2006, 20:52

Why cant offenders given "community service" be directed to cleaning up the streets and parks, also able bodied unemployed could be doing this for their dole money.

cashman · 27-12-2006, 22:55

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Originally Posted by grego

Why cant offenders given "community service" be directed to cleaning up the streets and parks, also able bodied unemployed could be doing this for their dole money.

thats quite a good point i think grego.

WillowTheWhisp · 28-12-2006, 00:23

I agree about the community service too. There must be plenty of fit young layabouts who get fines for one thing or another that they never intend to pay - a bit of park cleaning instead would do them and the parks the world of good. You can bet it probably infringes their human rights or something though.

cashman · 28-12-2006, 00:26

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I agree about the community service too. There must be plenty of fit young layabouts who get fines for one thing or another that they never intend to pay - a bit of park cleaning instead would do them and the parks the world of good. You can bet it probably infringes their human rights or something though.

you may find this hard to believe,but i would infringe their human rights,starting with turd patrol in milnshaw.