Miners Strike - Page 2

cmonstanley · 06-03-2009, 22:05

who created this situation ghostbusters no..thatcher did.every single objective was to divide the common person,divide communities,destroy what social cohesion this country had ,create unrest so her and her cronies could get away with selling the family jewells..did she build a better britain no she destroyed it..

Royboy39 · 06-03-2009, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Neil

So why has the present Labour Government not reopened them? They have been in power long enough to undo all Thatchers evil mistakes.

The money has gone....no dosh in the kitty.....given to bail out the banking sector....and sell off of the gold reserves.

Neil · 06-03-2009, 22:16

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The money has gone....no dosh in the kitty.....given to bail out the banking sector....and sell off of the gold reserves.

The bank bail out is recent, why did Labour not reopen the pits years ago and make, us once again, self sufficient in coal?

Tin Monkey · 06-03-2009, 22:21

Thatcher didn't bring down the miners' union. She employed Ian McGregor to do that for her.

cashman · 06-03-2009, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Magie brought the miners down, agreed.
It was a good politician against a bigot and he let a lot his supporters fry in the juice that he created.
How long can a failing industry be subsidised by a government who has to protect taxpayers money?
As to the subject of protecting taxpayers money....look at the present government....gold reserves gone...pensions gone...sterling almost gone.
The Banking industry has failed because of lack of government protection for the saver and borrower alike.
I think the current prime minister has more to answer for than all the prime ministers of the past including Thatcher and Wilson.

Many of those closed pits had donkeys years worth of coal left in em, which you probably well know, but would never expect a tory to admit truth.

the reason labour became what they are today, was quite simply- the society that BITCH created made socialism unelectable, in other words she created a me me me society.

Royboy39 · 06-03-2009, 22:25

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

who created this situation ghostbusters no..thatcher did.every single objective was to divide the common person,divide communities,destroy what social cohesion this country had ,create unrest so her and her cronies could get away with selling the family jewells..did she build a better britain no she destroyed it..

And the current labour government? Gordon Brown and his cronies are guilty of selling the country down the river...is your lord and master building a better britain...I doubt it....The smoking ban has killed the pub industry and stopped people socialising....social cohesion what the hell does that mean?...The family Jewels are no longer there thanks to GB and co....The country is almost skint....If you are happy with your life under the current administratioin I pray that you will shed your blinkers.

cashman · 06-03-2009, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Neil

The bank bail out is recent, why did Labour not reopen the pits years ago and make, us once again, self sufficient in coal?

i believe the sheer scale of the cost Neil to reopen put paid to that.

Neil · 06-03-2009, 22:33

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i believe the sheer scale of the cost Neil to reopen put paid to that.

Maybe but you have to offset that against what is paid out for people not working and the other advantages to society for people working beside the cost of benefits.

cashman · 06-03-2009, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Neil

Maybe but you have to offset that against what is paid out for people not working and the other advantages to society for people working beside the cost of benefits.

i was under the impression that had been done at the time, n obviously not viable then, cost a hell of a lot more now.

also ya gotta consider the possible backhanders fer nuclear.

Royboy39 · 06-03-2009, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Neil

Maybe but you have to offset that against what is paid out for people not working and the other advantages to society for people working beside the cost of benefits.

I agree with that...but can subsidies go on forever?

cmonstanley · 06-03-2009, 22:45

whats the difference between subsidies and investment

cashman · 06-03-2009, 22:47

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whats the difference between subsidies and investment

Think thats question fer those who Conserve fer Oneself.

Royboy39 · 06-03-2009, 22:50

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whats the difference between subsidies and investment

Would you invest in subsidies?

cmonstanley · 06-03-2009, 23:02

see were all still engrossed in the dog -eat -dog, quick -rich -britain sounds familiar

.its not subsidies its investing in whats left of britain .economics and politics affects every living person in britain you just cant just let it be,you have to try and do something right or wrong whats the alternative

Neil · 06-03-2009, 23:05

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

see were all still engrossed in the dog -eat -dog, quick -rich -britain sounds familiar

.its not subsidies its investing in whats left of britain .economics and politics affects every living person in britain you just cant just let it be,you have to try and do something right or wrong whats the alternative

I agree with the investing in Britain part, so why has the Government not done it? Maybe they think Thatcher was right in what she did. Maybe they are even pleased she did it so they did not have too.