Minimum wage in Prison?! - Page 2

WillowTheWhisp · 26-02-2007, 10:02

I'm sure most people are unaware that they get paid normal wages for the work they do. Bring back sewing mail bags and breaking rocks!

tadah · 26-02-2007, 10:16

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Oh and thank you for the silly karma deduction which makes no more sense than your response to this topic did

And leaving bad karma like this makes sense does it?...

Nobody said what? Which bit are you talking about? Sign it at least please willow

grego · 26-02-2007, 11:01

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I'm sure most people are unaware that they get paid normal wages for the work they do. Bring back sewing mail bags and breaking rocks!

I was unaware that they got minimum wage and quite shocked by it, though shouldn't be surprised really this country is just getting softer and softer.

WillowTheWhisp · 26-02-2007, 11:15

I don't know why you didn't get the whole lot tadah - for some reason you didn't but if you really want me to post it all in full here I will do so and then perhaps we can get back to the subject.

I can't remember the exact wording and, as I told you, I can't get back the page to have a look at it, but what I said in full was along the lines of:

'nobody said that even though I agree with your point, it's a different topic. What I don't agree with is your personal insult to Jambutty in your avatar - Willow'

Like I say. I can't remember the exact wording but that was the gist of it. I deducted karma from you for the avatar. I had to link it to a post and your post in this thread was saying something which didn't make sense in follow up to the previous posts because nobody had said anything about that - hence my opening words 'nobody said that' which seems to be the only bit you received.

If you want to know which post I linked it from you can find that out by clicking the karma, but it isn't really relevant as I have already explained to you by PM. The karma deduction was not for the content of the post but for the content of your avatar, which at the time I was not aware had been granted permission by the moderators. I still stand by my opinion of it though in spite of that. Sorry mods, but it's just my personal feelings about the subject that I'm expressing here.

As I said in my PM tadah, if you find someone's posts boring nobody is forcing you to read them. If I find a thread or a post boring I just skip on to something else that I'm interested in. Something which you find boring others may find interesting and vice versa. There have been some posts which have not interested me in the slightest but which others have responded to and have found fascinating and even helpful to them.

It's not compulsory for every post to appeal to every member.

My karma deduction was for a specific reason, which I felt strongly enough to deduct karma for - yours in retaliation was just plain silly.

SPUGGIE J · 26-02-2007, 11:42

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Originally Posted by grego

I was unaware that they got minimum wage and quite shocked by it, though shouldn't be surprised really this country is just getting softer and softer.

Gets any softer and Johnstons and certain soap powders will be suing the govenment.

WillowTheWhisp · 26-02-2007, 11:47

I'm still having trouble trying to see any defense for having prisoners better off than innocent people on the outside.

garinda · 26-02-2007, 11:55

Prisoner's should not be paid anything, as all their basic needs are met, such as food and accommodation.

They should be made to work on one of these for twelve hours a day, and help power the national grid.

http://www.inverarayjail.co.uk/Story/punishments.htm

harwood red · 26-02-2007, 12:01

I read somewhere recently that (I think it was the head of prisons) prisoners are being punished for having their freedom taken away!!!

WELL THATS NOT ENOUGH IN MY BOOK

chav1 · 26-02-2007, 12:05

i remember when people were afraid to goto prison in case they got bummed in teh showers , now they go for free education courses and holidays

probably do still get bummed in teh showers but since the invention of soap on a rope i guess its safer in there now

garinda · 26-02-2007, 12:16

Prison isn't a deterrent.

It's a free holiday away from home for a lot of Chavs.

WillowTheWhisp · 26-02-2007, 12:19

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Originally Posted by harwood red

I read somewhere recently that (I think it was the head of prisons) prisoners are being punished for having their freedom taken away!!!

WELL THATS NOT ENOUGH IN MY BOOK

Yes the fact of being locked up and having lights out at a specific time and not being able to go to the pub on on their hols is supposed to be punishment enough.

I agree harwood red - it isn't! There are plenty of people on the outside who can't afford holidays or going of down the pub every night and they have done nothing wrong. Prisoners have no worried about bills to pay or meals to make. They should be made to work unpaid.

harwood red · 26-02-2007, 12:36

so if not allowing to go out is a punishment then it's about time the govt did something to help those isolated in their own homes because they are too scared to go out after being targeted by some of the low lifes now in prison!!

Or is it they deserve the punishment too, doh!!!!!!!!!!!!

WillowTheWhisp · 26-02-2007, 12:41

It's all topsy turvey isn't it?

SPUGGIE J · 26-02-2007, 12:43

Sat down at lunch and considered the question about defending them. The conclusion I came to is " why the hell should I these twallies are better of than me!!!" I would be better off in the pokey than working for a living.

Mancie · 26-02-2007, 13:26

Prisoners do not get the minimum wage...I don't know were that notion came from!
I'm certainly not going to start sticking up for convicted criminals but lets get the basic facts.
Only around 15% of the prison population actually do industrial/manufactoring work...maybe another 10% do prison work such as cleaning and cooking... the average wage paid is around £9 per week.