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View Poll Results: How would you ensure the low paid get a fair deal?
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Let market forces decide the value of a worker
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Let government decide a minimum wage and link it to inflation
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Lower the tax threshold and ring fence it to inflation
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Something else
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19-01-2014, 19:49
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley
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If you have nothing sensible to add to the debate why don't you just go away?
You have demeaned a sensible thread with your inane post.
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19-01-2014, 22:27
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
I am just off to put the flag up on the town hall Cmon has put a post on this thread without using ANY cut and paste!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry couldn't resist ) if you dont believe me its post five. As for the minimum wage conundrum its got to be the tax threshold to be altered , as pointed out by others small firms might struggle to pay the increase but its about time the fat cats started to pay their way in tax terms letting multi nationals and foreign firms slime their way out of millions in tax has to stop.
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Last edited by walkinman221; 19-01-2014 at 22:32.
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19-01-2014, 22:34
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
sorry about that. but seriously i would be wondering what george osborne is up to. coming out with a statement raising the national minimum wage a year before the election. does he mean before the election or after the election
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19-01-2014, 22:36
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
You are just too suspicious.
Anyway, ask him next time you see him...I'm sure he will tell you...you seem to be party to all the insider information.
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19-01-2014, 23:15
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
Rather pleased to declare that 'something else' is an important option, but feel constrained by the immediately-apparent lack of essential insult - I'm losing it, it can be proposed.
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19-01-2014, 23:20
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
For those who care a fig, I pay my cleaner ten pounds an hour. That's not any hour, you understand - just those during which she attends for work. I'll upset a few here, perhaps - and jolly-dee if I do - when I so boldly indicate that my cleaner is female.
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19-01-2014, 23:23
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
If you have nothing sensible to add to the debate why don't you just go away?
You have demeaned a sensible thread with your inane post.
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Not sensible, but quite interesting nonetheless.
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20-01-2014, 08:06
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Beacon of light
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
would you enlighten me as to why my suggestion is not sensible?
If someone posts a nonsensical post to sensible thread....how can it not be sensible to ask that person to go away?
Enlightenment is required..please.
And in the interest of reasoned debate you could also enlighten us as to what your 'something else' consists of too.
What you choose to pay your cleaner is your business......and I don't care what gender your cleaner is. What has it got to do with the minimum wage what the gender of your cleaner is?
You are usually so precise about not thread wandering...not like the lesser mortals on here who do it for fun.
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Last edited by Margaret Pilkington; 20-01-2014 at 08:09.
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20-01-2014, 09:59
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Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
would you enlighten me as to why my suggestion is not sensible?
If someone posts a nonsensical post to sensible thread....how can it not be sensible to ask that person to go away?
Enlightenment is required..please.
And in the interest of reasoned debate you could also enlighten us as to what your 'something else' consists of too.
What you choose to pay your cleaner is your business......and I don't care what gender your cleaner is. What has it got to do with the minimum wage what the gender of your cleaner is?
You are usually so precise about not thread wandering...not like the lesser mortals on here who do it for fun.
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I suspect, he meant c'mons post wasn't sensible not yours, but the way his mind works I can't be sure.
Something else just means he doesn't know what else.
Substituting carer for cleaner may be more accurate.
As for gender your right, we don't need to know. He is trying to boost his own self importance in this post as with his other posts.
As for thread wandering, he has already stated that rules don't apply to him only we foolish mortals.
He really should try to join the real virtual world once in a while.
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20-01-2014, 11:54
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
Well Less, it was my post he quoted...so I it was a fair conclusion that he meant that it was my post which was not sensible.
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The world will not be destroyed by evil people...
It will be destroyed by those who stand by and do Nothing.
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20-01-2014, 12:11
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Well Less, it was my post he quoted...so I it was a fair conclusion that he meant that it was my post which was not sensible.
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Well, whoever he meant, his opinions aren't anything worthwhile.
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20-01-2014, 17:37
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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Originally Posted by Graham Hartley
Rather pleased to declare that 'something else' is an important option, but feel constrained by the immediately-apparent lack of essential insult - I'm losing it, it can be proposed.
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Is it just me or is that bollox
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20-01-2014, 19:15
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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Is it just me or is that bollox
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Now then, now then, walkinman.
That's no way to comment on one of the profound, thought provoking pronouncements of Graham Hartley!
I'll have you know he has a cleaner. Not only that- it's a woman. Not only that-he pays her. No itinerant traveler, our Graham Hartley!
The way he states it suggests he feels it makes him a person of standing in the community. Deserving of your respect.
The fact that you thought, even for a moment, that one of his contributions might be 'bollox' may suggest to him a lack of intelligence and education on your part.
So join the rest of us.
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20-01-2014, 19:46
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
As if serious, I'll try pressing on. The 'something else' approach involves all who contribute to a common good receiving the same financial reward. I worked in the eighties in Wales for an organisation with some four hundred employees. It was proposed that we should all receive the same for our efforts. Arithmetic was done, and presented. The proposal was ultimately rejected by a majority who would lose the most.
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20-01-2014, 19:51
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Re: Minimum wage rise - good or bad?
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth
Now then, now then, walkinman.
That's no way to comment on one of the profound, thought provoking pronouncements of Graham Hartley!
I'll have you know he has a cleaner. Not only that- it's a woman. Not only that-he pays her. No itinerant traveler, our Graham Hartley!
The way he states it suggests he feels it makes him a person of standing in the community. Deserving of your respect.
The fact that you thought, even for a moment, that one of his contributions might be 'bollox' may suggest to him a lack of intelligence and education on your part.
So join the rest of us.
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You have me right, Gordon Booth. I derive immense pleasure from any response to my remarks. For me, the worst that any here could do would be to ignore.
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